Looking for an awesome primary to pair with /DA
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ClawsandEffect,
Posted on: 2011-03-19 19:10 in Scrappers
Broad Sword if you don't want to go Katana. I prefer Katana, but it's not so superior that I'd let it get in the way of concept. You can get a rather insane level of survivability. As far as AV killing, I took out 11 Praetorian Archvillains in a row on my Katana/Dark pre I19 - no temps, no inspirations, no deaths. With inherent fitness, incarnate powers and a level shift, I should be much tougher now. Offensively, though, it's only so-so.
As far as the ITF, I ran him through last night I think it was. No deaths, no problems. In fact, after they took the woman to the pedestal, most of the team bailed, and I stayed on the opposite side of the map and took on probably an aggro cap in bosses for quite a few minutes. I used one inspiration - a purple when I got hit with some massive defense debuff.
You can do pretty well on a budget. You can do insanely well if you have insane amounts of influence. Here's my unlimited budget build:
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"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Awesome, thanks. I was consideirng going with Kat but my character RP wise isn't really one who would be with the graces of a katana, much as he would be too busy just...stabbing and ripping thinks off with a large chunky sword.
I understand that offensively, Shield is better. However, well, everyone goes /Shield, and I already have several Shield based toons. And really, I want to be able to do something that's impressive survivability wise. I already have an impressive offensive toon with ELM/Shield, now it's time to see what I can go with in the other direction.
Thanks!
While you're at it, read this thread: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=189427
Broadsword and Katana/Dark Armor are discussed extensively in it. Most of the good points and bad points about the combination were covered in it.
The builds in it aren't up to date, but they are still valid starting points.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
I vote Broadsword. I haven't had the chance to try a solo ITF, but duo ITF was no problem with my BS/DA.
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Yeah, I think that's a great thread despite the builds being out of date. As I recall, it does a good job of discussing the strengths and weaknesses of the combination and this approach to building a sword/Dark, and also how the build plays in general, and what it's capable of. Not everyone likes it (one person hated it and regretted doing a respec into this approach), and there are acknowledged weaknesses, particularly on a budget build. But it's my favorite toon right now, and I consider it my main these days.|
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
While you're at it, read this thread: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=189427
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Defense debuffs are kryptonite, though hitting soft cap with one hit of Divine Avalanche seems to be helping compared to my previous build that required two. Managed to get through an ITF unscathed.
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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I bounce back and forth between my BS/DA and my Claws/Regen being my main. The Claws/Regen is my namesake, but the BS/DA is the more powerful character. |
Originally Posted by Werner
But it's my favorite toon right now, and I consider it my main these days.
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I've chosen the BS/DA to be the character I run through all the Incarnate stuff first though, and it's currently the only one that has a level shift.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
So I can see that DA definitely has some awesome potential. I was wondering however if it was possible to build it up to an AV killing machine, or something that can easily take care of himself during the ITF even. Something that will be pretty impressive offensively and defensively. I also plan on using the t9, because having a pretty awesome stun seems REALLY cool. I don't mind the concept of using death as an excuse for a massively LOL stun.
I was thinking BS/DA or spines/da. Spines however I hear has some pretty mediocre to low single target damage. I have an elec/shield scrapper, and the single target is slightly unbearable.
BS/DA I think could be awesome, as well as Kat/DA, but concept wise BS would fit much better. I'm also up for any other suggestions that go well with DA.
...with the exception actually being DM. I had a dm/shield and while I enjoyed it and I can see how awesome it is, it didn't do that much for me.