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Yes and no on aggro.|
Originally Posted by Psycho_Sarah
So I wanted another tank. My last was Shield/Super Strength and it went well. I very rarely see Ice/Ice tanks anywhere so I decided that I would make one. Leveling has been...interesting so far. Finally hit 31 and got into a Citadel TF. I don't think I had many problems and was able to get to 33.
First questions are on Hibernate. Do you keep aggro when you activate it? Can you get out of it early? Is is needed or can I skip it? Chilling Embrace and Icicles. Should I slot these for taunt or can I set slot them for better bonuses? |
If you have used a taunt-effect prior to activating it, the taunt duration will still have the mob attempting to hit your invulnerable state.
You won't gain any more aggro since you are only affecting self. So your teammates can peel aggro off of you during it.
You can cancel Hibernate anytime. It functions like a toggle - you just click it again to turn it off. The implementated NoPhase will force it to end after a time if you do not.
Hibernate is needed. Ice Armour has next to no resistances to speak of, when you get hit it will hurt. Horafrost can help aliveate some hits, but when doing big end-game stuff you'll get hit, and hit hard. Devouring Earth is a good example of what to be careful of that you should be facing soon - Quartz will negate your defenses and you'll need something to rely on. Learn what mobs are the real threat and abuse your control in Freezing Touch to prevent it from being an issue.
Chilling Embrace and Icicles fall under various levels of what you wish to do. I don't use Icicles - back to the old sleeper set Ice Melee was the AoE damage was more counter-productive than helpful and I never bothered to pick it up again.
I slot CE, though for set bonuses and slow than anything else. The slotted Slows help as well trying to keep the mob clustered around you to help limit runners. But others would say to use it elsewhere.
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Hibernate is not exactly necessary but it does help against stuff with -def debuffs or stuff with crazy + acc buffs like quartz. Your aggro will only continue as long as its remaining duration. This can be an issue when fighting stuff that is +3 or more levels above you since taunt duration drops quite a bit against those mobs.|
Originally Posted by Psycho_Sarah
So I wanted another tank. My last was Shield/Super Strength and it went well. I very rarely see Ice/Ice tanks anywhere so I decided that I would make one. Leveling has been...interesting so far. Finally hit 31 and got into a Citadel TF. I don't think I had many problems and was able to get to 33.
First questions are on Hibernate. Do you keep aggro when you activate it? Can you get out of it early? Is is needed or can I skip it? Chilling Embrace and Icicles. Should I slot these for taunt or can I set slot them for better bonuses? |
As far as Icicles go, slot it like you would a normal attack with a little more focus on end reduction. I think the multi strike set is close to perfect for it, good dmg, end redux, acc and decent set bonuses for an ice tanker.
CE doesn't really need to be slotted at all. The bonus to slow on it only affects the run speed portion of its slow not its attack speed reduction, although you could use some taunt in it to help with its duration when/if you use hibernate. I like having both auras since they can spread out the taunt effect over more mobs than just one aura could do on its own.
Take Hibernate, definately, for one it requires absoluting no slotting other than the base, due to the NoPhase changes.
Secondly, it's in my opinion, one of the best defensive tier 9's for tankers that doesn't require you to be defeated to use. (Dark probably has the best, due to the enhanceable recharge and the high mag stun.) It means you're literally untouchable, and because of CE's and Icicles aggro, you have roughly 10-12 seconds of Hibernation before you even have a chance to lose aggro, more than enough to fully replish your HP or Endurance.
If you're still worried about losing aggro in Hibernate, hit taunt before hand, the base unresisted duration of taunt is longer than you can spend in Hibernation.
Secondly, slot a taunt IO (Or two if you have the slots.) in CE if you're having aggro problem,s it's tick-rate is stupidly long, and its duration is just short of Invul and SD's taunt auras, nobody tends to enchance CE (Or any aggro aura aside from RTTC) so you'll pretty much be able to hold aggro from anything but an invul/ss or SD/SS tanker (Due to higher damage, and thus higher threat.) without using Taunt at all.
Otherwise, stick the chance for -rech and chance for damage slow procs in CE, perhaps a end-redux if your EA/global recharge isn't high enough to handle all your toggles.
Icicles, either slot for damage slot bonuses or frankenslot for dmg/end and a small bit of acc. (If you've got 30/40% global Acc there's no real bother.).
Slotting Icicles for dmg/end/taunt and CE for slow/end/taunt will have people staring at you wondering why you have all the aggro while being AFK.
By having more taunt duration either by using of Taunt or by aggro/damage aurs (Remember debuff adds to the mutipler.) than the time it takes to fully recover HP/End in Hibernate, you effectively won't lose aggro while using it, unless you're using it to lose the debuffs in the time you've been stacked with -100+% defense, remember hibernate is untouchable so unlike other Tier 9's, being debuffed to Def or Res won't completely shred the effectiveness of it's use.
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Yes, but you won't continue adding to your ability to keep aggro while it's active.|
Originally Posted by Psycho_Sarah
First questions are on Hibernate. Do you keep aggro when you activate it? Can you get out of it early? Is is needed or can I skip it?
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Yes, you can end it early. It's a toggle. Toggle it off and you're out early.
You can skip it, but you'd be a fool to do so.
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Originally Posted by Psycho_Sarah
Chilling Embrace and Icicles. Should I slot these for taunt or can I set slot them for better bonuses?
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Icicles is best slotted for Damage. Pick the PBAoE Damage Set you like the set bonuses of and slot that. Plan on picking a PBAoE Damage Set that gives you +Defense of a Type which you are lacking in to help balance yourself out. Eradication is actually pretty good for Energy/Negative Defense in this regard, since most people have Smash/Lethal covered.
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So I wanted another tank. My last was Shield/Super Strength and it went well. I very rarely see Ice/Ice tanks anywhere so I decided that I would make one. Leveling has been...interesting so far. Finally hit 31 and got into a Citadel TF. I don't think I had many problems and was able to get to 33.
First questions are on Hibernate. Do you keep aggro when you activate it? Can you get out of it early? Is is needed or can I skip it?
Chilling Embrace and Icicles. Should I slot these for taunt or can I set slot them for better bonuses?
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