single-slot for health and stam Question
City of Data is a good place to look up numbers if you don't have Mids' available. Enhancement values can be found on Paragon Wiki.
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Health provides a base 40% +regen buff. With a single level 50 heal, you're enhancing it by 42.4%, for a gain of 16.96% +regen. The Numina's proc provides 20% +regen and the Regenerative Tissue proc provides 25% +regen. In other words, the proc is the best thing you can put in there (provided you don't have another slot with a lower opportunity cost than 16.96% +regen).
So if I'm not putting Miracle or Numina's into health (because I'm a /regen and they're already in my build) am I better off putting a level 50 Common Health or the regenerative tissue unique in that one slot? I dun have mids so I can't check for myself and I have always wondered.
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Similarly, I know that the Performance Shifter proc is better than 1 level 50 EndMod in Physical Perfection, but is it still better than the EndMod in Stamina? |
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Not meaning to sound as snarky as this comes across, but it may be a good site for looking up data. But it is 100% worthless for my purposes. I have no ability to do anything with the numbers it does provide and I can't find any numbers I need using it.
City of Data is a good place to look up numbers if you don't have Mids' available. Enhancement values can be found on Paragon Wiki.
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Nothing on the site tells me how many hp/sec a specific scrapper will get slotting 1 level 50 heal IO into health, and how much the same scrapper will get by slotting the regenerative tissue unique.
Hell, I can't even tell what the percentage bonus is from the IO. The site only says "Adds a {Boost.Attrib.Heal.Scale}% bonus to regeneration rate for 120 seconds." How does that translate into anything useful?
I also can't find the common IOs at all.
I really don't like that site and that's why I have never and don't think I ever will recommend anyone use it. I can't recommend anyone use something that I don't find helpful myself. The wiki I point people to all the time. City of Data, well, normally I follow the "if you can't say anything nice" rule.
(Snark coming partly from being on the last few hours of a 16 hour work day following a 14 hour workday and looking at another one tomorrow too, nothing against you and I do appreciate the attempt to help!)
@Umbral, thanks! Glad to finally know the numbers on that Performance Proc. I knew the "ideal" slotting for 2, 3 and 4 slots in stamina, but never before had a reason to think about just one. =)
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You just have to know where to look for the information you seek. It was all there, between those two sites. City of Data is mostly good for looking up power effects and values. Paragon Wiki has everything else.
Not meaning to sound as snarky as this comes across, but it may be a good site for looking up data. But it is 100% worthless for my purposes. I have no ability to do anything with the numbers it does provide and I can't find any numbers I need using it.
Nothing on the site tells me how many hp/sec a specific scrapper will get slotting 1 level 50 heal IO into health, and how much the same scrapper will get by slotting the regenerative tissue unique. Hell, I can't even tell what the percentage bonus is from the IO. The site only says "Adds a {Boost.Attrib.Heal.Scale}% bonus to regeneration rate for 120 seconds." How does that translate into anything useful? I also can't find the common IOs at all. I really don't like that site and that's why I have never and don't think I ever will recommend anyone use it. I can't recommend anyone use something that I don't find helpful myself. The wiki I point people to all the time. City of Data, well, normally I follow the "if you can't say anything nice" rule. (Snark coming partly from being on the last few hours of a 16 hour work day following a 14 hour workday and looking at another one tomorrow too, nothing against you and I do appreciate the attempt to help!) @Umbral, thanks! Glad to finally know the numbers on that Performance Proc. I knew the "ideal" slotting for 2, 3 and 4 slots in stamina, but never before had a reason to think about just one. =) |
City of Data says Health gives 40% unenhanced regeneration on a level 50 Scrapper. Paragon Wiki says the base Health Regeneration is 5% of your maximum health every 12 seconds. Scrapper base hitpoints at 50 is 1338.6. A level 50 Heal IO gives 42.4% enhancement bonus.
From there, you can multiply Health's value by the value you intend to enhance it, while taking Enhancement Diversification into account. Then you need to figure out how many hit points your Scrapper will have at 50, after the build is done. Multiply the 5% hitpoints every 12 seconds by Health's enhanced value and you will have your number.
It is a lot more complex without Mids', isn't it?
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But that's also a lot of work that's not needed. No ED is relevant, my hp isn't necessarily relvant (but it is one way to get at the answer), base healing isn't relevant.
From there, you can multiply Health's value by the value you intend to enhance it, while taking Enhancement Diversification into account. Then you need to figure out how many hit points your Scrapper will have at 50, after the build is done. Multiply the 5% hitpoints every 12 seconds by Health's enhanced value and you will have your number.
It is a lot more complex without Mids', isn't it? |
The only variables are the base value of health as modified by the value of one common level 50 IO, and the value of the regenerative tissue unique.
My HP will change the Common IO and the regen tissue by the same amount so that cancels itself out.
Base healing is the same either way so that cancels itself out.
Only one slot so ED isn't a factor.
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You could convert it all to HP/sec (which would need my total HP) which I was thinking, but Umbral's doing it in % is just removing a step or two and still giving the same information.
"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.
So if I'm not putting Miracle or Numina's into health (because I'm a /regen and they're already in my build) am I better off putting a level 50 Common Health or the regenerative tissue unique in that one slot? I dun have mids so I can't check for myself and I have always wondered.
Similarly, I know that the Performance Shifter proc is better than 1 level 50 EndMod in Physical Perfection, but is it still better than the EndMod in Stamina?
"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.