Help with some basics (Mind/Fire)


Dromio

 

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Hello!

I've been playing CoH for a long time, but I've never played one of what I would call the "crowd control" AT's: Controllers and Dominators. But recently I started a Mind/Fire and I'm really enjoying the character quite a bit. I've been ultra conservative though, and I've been running missions at pretty low difficulty up to level 42. I can tackle a 3 mob spawn pretty well by now of course, but every time I try to take myself out of that comfort zone I get beat down. I have questions, most are probably pretty basic to Dominator vets, but I'd appreciate any help I can get.

Currently I'm level 42, with Fireball out of the APP. I have some IO slotting, and hope to do a couple purple sets (which I've never done on any other character), but I'm not sure I'll have the cash when I get to 50. I've got the cash to do some good IO stuff though, I can post my build (though it might be embarassing) if people think it would help.

- How do you handle a mob that can't be held/confused in one shot, or even two it seems? I know about the stacking, but confuse especially never seems to stack the way I think it should. Domination raises the mag, is that correct (I looked at Domination in the game and I didn't see anything talking about raised mag)? How much? I got into it with Silent Blade and she killed me over and over.

- How do you handle large groups of mobs? I have Total Domination, Mass Hypno, Terrorize, and Mass Confuse, but I always seem to have a horrible time when I get larger numbers of mobs. One or two get missed and then as I'm dealing with them I have that timer in my head shrieking that all the others are about to wake up and whack me. This could be a panic issue as much as anything else. A perhaps extreme example is the "Gunslinger Action Figure" tip mission with all its ambushes. I love that mission on most of my other characters but it just eats this character up!

- I'm assuming that when you get to perma-dom (and I'd like to) you run with Hasten on auto-fire and manually fire Domination? Any tricks to that?

- I have trouble when I'm not the aggressor, again like with ambushes or unexpected things. Where I don't get to initiate and set things up the way I want. Any thoughts? On my other characters, mostly melee, it's probable that I just smash my way through.

This is a new playstyle for me. I do have multiple 50's of all flavors except Controller, Defender, and Dominator. I'm really enjoying this character, despite the issues, and that makes me think that if I can get past some of these issues this could be a memorable character for me.

Thanks!


 

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Originally Posted by Dromio View Post
Hello!

I've been playing CoH for a long time, but I've never played one of what I would call the "crowd control" AT's: Controllers and Dominators. But recently I started a Mind/Fire and I'm really enjoying the character quite a bit. I've been ultra conservative though, and I've been running missions at pretty low difficulty up to level 42. I can tackle a 3 mob spawn pretty well by now of course, but every time I try to take myself out of that comfort zone I get beat down. I have questions, most are probably pretty basic to Dominator vets, but I'd appreciate any help I can get.
Welcome! Out of all the MMOs I've played, CoH is the only one that keeps calling me back, and Krya, my Mind/Thorn Dom is the reason. I love this AT and the Mind primary, because it's a fairly unique experience in MMOs I think. There's some tough spots though, so I'll tell you how I dealt with them leveling up.

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Currently I'm level 42, with Fireball out of the APP. I have some IO slotting, and hope to do a couple purple sets (which I've never done on any other character), but I'm not sure I'll have the cash when I get to 50. I've got the cash to do some good IO stuff though, I can post my build (though it might be embarassing) if people think it would help.
Definitely. It's easier to tell what's wrong (if there is something wrong build wise) if you post a build chunk. But for basic advice at your level: 6 slot Dominate and Confuse 2Acc 3Hold/Conf 1Rech: slot Mez 2Acc: slot your AoE controls 2Acc 2Control 2Rech, and if you solo, get Mass Hypnosis! With Mez, Lev, Dom, Con, MH, TD, and MC you should have more than enough tools to deal with most things.

Onto the questions!

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- How do you handle a mob that can't be held/confused in one shot, or even two it seems? I know about the stacking, but confuse especially never seems to stack the way I think it should. Domination raises the mag, is that correct (I looked at Domination in the game and I didn't see anything talking about raised mag)? How much? I got into it with Silent Blade and she killed me over and over.
I'm going to guess either Nemesis, Cimerorans, or Longbow Warden/Officers.

-Some Nemesis have Hold and/or sleep resistance. Hit them with confuse and then stack holds on them if you want to.
-Cimerorans have shield that protect from everything except fear, BUT they won't turn them on until you aggro them. MH the spawn and then hold them.
-Longbow Bosses run Leadership. The trick is to sleep the Officer/Warden with Mez (sleep hole) which will suppress their aura.

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- How do you handle large groups of mobs? I have Total Domination, Mass Hypno, Terrorize, and Mass Confuse, but I always seem to have a horrible time when I get larger numbers of mobs. One or two get missed and then as I'm dealing with them I have that timer in my head shrieking that all the others are about to wake up and whack me. This could be a panic issue as much as anything else. A perhaps extreme example is the "Gunslinger Action Figure" tip mission with all its ambushes. I love that mission on most of my other characters but it just eats this character up!
If it isn't an ambush, lead with MH. Then select one of the misses and confuse if there's at least one other miss as well. Then Hold the last one and go to town. Remember to reapply control if you think MH will wear off before you are done mopping up. Mez is great for this.

For Ambushes,either select a corner to hide behind or run towards the ambush with Mez queued on the leader. Once the rest get close enough to the slept leader, drop MH! Drop TD on the next group if more come while you are fighting the first set. Drop MC on the last group once they get close enough to confuse all three ambushes! Help melt them or start cycling confuse through them all and watch the fun.

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- I'm assuming that when you get to perma-dom (and I'd like to) you run with Hasten on auto-fire and manually fire Domination? Any tricks to that?
I put Domination on auto because if I miss Hasten by a second it won't kill me, but if Dom drops I have to refill the meter again. If you are tight enough that missing either would kill your domination, I would swap the auto around so that it's on the next one due to fire.

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- I have trouble when I'm not the aggressor, again like with ambushes or unexpected things. Where I don't get to initiate and set things up the way I want. Any thoughts? On my other characters, mostly melee, it's probable that I just smash my way through.
One of the old guides compares dominators to Blasters in that way. If you don't actively mitigate damage immediately, you get a trip to the hospital. Just remember to reserve an AoE control for emergencies, and use it! (A couple rows of purps does make for a handy emergency button though.) I think this is one of the best parts of a Dominator though: you are awesome but there are no small mistakes. You Dominate or Die. Of course now a days you could just build an S/L cap dom... but that's no fun! (IMO!) I like playing on that razor's edge between absolute safety and complete failure.

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This is a new playstyle for me. I do have multiple 50's of all flavors except Controller, Defender, and Dominator. I'm really enjoying this character, despite the issues, and that makes me think that if I can get past some of these issues this could be a memorable character for me.
Mind is an incredible control set. Between Mez, Lev, Dom and Con, you can easily take charge of any mob not sporting PToD with few issues, and with careful use of your AoE controls, you will easily 'dominate' most any spawn. The key is using the control combos effectively and being ready in an instant to respond when something brown hits the proverbial fan.

I have issues staying interested in anything BUT Controllers, Dominators and Defenders. I love that aspect of this game because it's so far past what other games allow you to have in those areas. I hope you keep finding reasons to play your Dom!

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