Defense bonus help


ClawsandEffect

 

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So I am using mids and attempting to slot weave on my spines/wp. The first 3 slots I use from Shield Wall set and I am placing 3 from LotG, each sets is giving me separate defense numbers and not combining them. I am assuming the Shield Wall portion is the pvp side but is there any way to combine the 2 into one bonus so that I don't over slot?


 

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Originally Posted by Soldier_Prime View Post
So I am using mids and attempting to slot weave on my spines/wp. The first 3 slots I use from Shield Wall set and I am placing 3 from LotG, each sets is giving me separate defense numbers and not combining them. I am assuming the Shield Wall portion is the pvp side but is there any way to combine the 2 into one bonus so that I don't over slot?
I'm probably misunderstanding you, so forgive me if I make wrong assumptions in my attempt to answer you.

Now, if I understand right, you want to combine the pvp bonuses that Shield Wall gives you along with your pve bonuses? Why? Any of the pvp bonuses you get basically don't exist when you're in pve zones, so I can't see any reason to want to add them up.

Now, if you want to know what your total defense in a pvp situation would be, just click the pvp button at the top of mids, and it'll show you your stats for that.


 

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Now, if you want to know what your total defense in a pvp situation would be, just click the pvp button at the top of mids, and it'll show you your stats for that.

I am making this for pve, try frankenslotting 2 sets together say LotG and Red Fortune, the bonuses from each enhancement within the sets add together (Lotg defense = 25.5, RF defense = 25.5 bringing the total enhanced value of the power in question to 49.70). Now try doing the same thing with LotG and and Shield Wall and you get 2 different vales not adding together,
Defense: 25.50%
Defense: 25.50%
The reason I want the pvp set involved is because I like the pve set bonuses within the set and the fact that I have a couple Shield Walls sitting in my base looking for work.


 

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But...they do nothing in pve, so there is no reason why they would add. That's why they're called PvP IOs. Well, actually, there on some set bonuses that are active in PvE, but anyways...

I think the closest you're going to get to what you are looking for is just hitting the total tab. That said, I think I understand what you're talking about now. When seeing the set bonuses, it will only show what's on each individual set, there is no adding algorithm at all. So of course Frankenslotting will show you the individual bonuses, that's what it would do anyways. If you're requesting that to be added to the mids program, you're better off sending an email to titan network or finding one of the players on here that manages mids.


 

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Funny thing is though it adds the end reduction and the recharge reduction rates together, so I guess your right thats its just a Mids bug that needs fixing in 1 way or another.


 

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I assumed that was an error in the way Mid's reports the defense values. I don't think the defense from Shield Wall is a seperate catagory from the defense from LoTG. If I remember, I can verify that in game tonight.


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But...they do nothing in pve, so there is no reason why they would add.
Untrue.

All PvP IO sets have 2 different sets of bonuses. The first set is active all the time, the second set is active only in PvP zones or the arena. In PvP you get BOTH sets of bonuses.

I'd pick either Shield Wall or LotG and slot 4 of them. Or possibly 3 Shield Wall and the LotG +Rech.


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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
Untrue.

All PvP IO sets have 2 different sets of bonuses. The first set is active all the time, the second set is active only in PvP zones or the arena. In PvP you get BOTH sets of bonuses.

I'd pick either Shield Wall or LotG and slot 4 of them. Or possibly 3 Shield Wall and the LotG +Rech.
I'd do the later ... 3 Shield Wall and the LotG +7.5% (or 4 slot LotG or 3 slot Shield Wall)


 

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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon View Post
But...they do nothing in pve, so there is no reason why they would add. That's why they're called PvP IOs. Well, actually, there *are some set bonuses that are active in PvE, but anyways...
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
Untrue.

All PvP IO sets have 2 different sets of bonuses. The first set is active all the time, the second set is active only in PvP zones or the arena. In PvP you get BOTH sets of bonuses.
*points* I was under the impression that the shield wall defense bonus is pvp only. I may be wrong, as I don't have that set. But yes, I do know that there are two sets of bonuses.