Dark Melee. It's also more survivable with those secondaries than the other two.
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I don't remember who posted this spreadsheet but it compares different attack chains' DPS values.
Ok so would DM go better with SR or SD?
Super Reflexes if you're on a budget. Shield Defense if you can afford the good stuff or aren't as concerned with survivability. DM/SD can do about 25% better single-target DPS in its element (surrounded), plus it has Shield Charge, but it takes more effort on the survivability side, and more effort to pull off a top attack chain.
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Ok Thank you 
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That would be me. It's a bit artificial (endurance is FAR from sustainable in those builds, and survivability takes a distance second to DPS), and several issues old now, but probably still relatively representative of absolute top end DPS for the sets that are included (outside of extra buffs like Shield Defense's Against All Odds or Fiery Aura's Fiery Embrace). Martial Arts has been buffed, so if it was in there (I don't remember), it's probably better now.
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Originally Posted by Syntax42
I don't remember who posted this spreadsheet but it compares different attack chains' DPS values.
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so theres a possibility MA could do more Dps overall in a longer fight, or it no lol sorry for questions.
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I have not reevaluated Martial Arts since the buffs, but I highly doubt that it is the equal of a top end Dark Melee, at least if Dark Melee has fodder for Soul Drain.
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Originally Posted by Prancing_Pony
so theres a possibility MA could do more Dps overall in a longer fight, or it no lol sorry for questions.
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So deffinitely dm?
I would say DM, but like Werner I haven't looked into MA since the buff.
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So deffinitely dm?
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DM/SD has the highest DPS on pylon runs(though DM/SR is still a very solid performer). DM is negative energy, so it is resisted less often than lethal. Finally, who doesn't love an excellent self-heal included in the attack chain to keep you alive and not lower DPS by having to activate Aid Self?
No question - DM.
Yes, DM/SD wins.
When you are permanently saturating both Soul Drain and AAO. As soon as you lose the fodder, DM/SD's place in the DPS hierarchy changes.
Once you're down to nothing but you and the AV/Pylon/whatever, I rather doubt that DM/SD will retain anything near its topdog status.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Yes, DM/SD wins.
When you are permanently saturating both Soul Drain and AAO. As soon as you lose the fodder, DM/SD's place in the DPS hierarchy changes. Once you're down to nothing but you and the AV/Pylon/whatever, I rather doubt that DM/SD will retain anything near its topdog status. |
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Probably, but it seems to be mentioned very rarely.
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DM/SD, why? Because I'm biased and uncultured and refuse to play anything else. 
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Which is better for single target pve DM, MA , or Claws?
Secondary would be SD or SR.
Thanks for the help