How I Mine for PvP?


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PvP has always been my favorite part of any MMO, but I know nothing about the PvP in city of heroes. Most of the stuff I read on the forums is very technical (lots of acronyms) and I can't get very much information from them. Is it big teams fighting each other, one on one, are there objectives, are there separate attributes for PvP, what are a few of the most important attributes? Stuff like that. The only character I have right now is a Dual Pistol/Traps Corrupter and from experience in other games I assume this would be terrible at PvP. If I want to make a character for PvP or salvage this one some how, where should I start?

Even if someone replies with a few links to other helpful threads that would be awesome.


 

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PvP in this game sucks. it gets no support from the devs, the devs ignore any and all contact the pvp playerbase trys to have with them, and the playerbase is dwindiling. it is a broken system that will probably never be fixed because the devs care more about making the RP/pve carebear community happy than the pvp community they drove off themselves but,


if you want to pvp, make a psi/em

read this
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Player_vs_Player
and here's a build

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glhf


Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.

 

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What server do you play on?

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Is it big teams fighting each other, one on one,
It's a mix of both. There are PVP zones, which is basically a bunch of people fighting each other at all times, with or without teamwork. There is also arena pvp, which is nowadays mostly 1v1 dueling-type stuff, even though the occasional 2v2 or 4v4 might happen.

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are there objectives,
The only (meaningful) objective is to kill everyone.

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are there separate attributes for PvP,
Yes and no. Most of your attributes will get drastically lowered in pvp due to DR (diminishing return).TS (Travel Suppression) causes every action you take will cause a drastic slowing effect for a short period of time (but some can even slow you for as high as 3 seconds.) Healing (or getting healed) multiple times in a row (More than once in 8 seconds to be exact) will cause your heals to heal for less (HD=Heal Decay). Mez's are nearly useless, the squishier ATs get a resistance bonus when entering a pvp zone/arena, damage from all powers is largely based on activation time, if someone uses a mez on you, you WILL be mezd (mez= Holds, stuns, sleeps etc) but as I previously mentioned they will usually last only .5-4 seconds. Theres more, but I can't remember them atm (atm=At the Moment).
(If you plan to be a serious pvper, you must hate all of the above.)

But no, there is nothing like "resilience" or stuff like that for pvp.

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what are a few of the most important attributes?
Damage,hit points, accuracy, KB (KB=KnockBack) protection (while starting out, I recommend you don't really worry that much about KB protection) range, and resistance. I suggest you take super speed and super jump, and try to cap your run speed and jump speed/height (Its a general rule of thumb for any pvper to pick up super speed and super jump, because not being mobile in this game's pvp will kill you.)

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The only character I have right now is a Dual Pistol/Traps Corrupter and from experience in other games I assume this would be terrible at PvP.
This character would be bad, you are correct.

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If I want to make a character for PvP or salvage this one some how, where should I start?
Start out with a blaster. Have your secondary as energy melee.

Hope that helps.


 

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Some great info and a tasty build from PC Guy, but after some further research it seems that PvP is ludicrously expensive. I think maybe I better focus on my PvE character for now and get a little better feel for the game first (and build up some funds).


 

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Originally Posted by Cyric V View Post
Some great info and a tasty build from PC Guy, but after some further research it seems that PvP is ludicrously expensive. I think maybe I better focus on my PvE character for now and get a little better feel for the game first (and build up some funds).
This is, to me, the biggest problem with pvp in this game (aside from the i13 changes as a whole). You have to be a pve multi billionaire to have your character be up to par, and while for some people its easy as hell to get infamy in this game (like me), new players don't know to roll farmers, or don't have the time/patience/understanding to start playing the market. Until the devs implement a new type of easily obtainable pvp IO, we aren't going to see many new player's getting into pvp.

Also, playing in PVE won't really give you a better feel for how the game is in pvp.


 

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Originally Posted by Cyric V View Post
Some great info and a tasty build from PC Guy, but after some further research it seems that PvP is ludicrously expensive. I think maybe I better focus on my PvE character for now and get a little better feel for the game first (and build up some funds).
for high end pvp, yes.

but if you're just going to be lolzone pvping then you can make a build for relatively cheap (like 500mil).

in the build i posted, you take out the glad jav procs and the apoc set and it is a very cheap build.

you can also make a WP stalker and more or less SO it and have success, same as a regin, but zones don't need any more melees


Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.

 

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Originally Posted by PC_guy View Post
PvP in this game sucks. it gets no support from the devs, the devs ignore any and all contact the pvp playerbase trys to have with them, and the playerbase is dwindiling. it is a broken system that will probably never be fixed because the devs care more about making the RP/pve carebear community happy than the pvp community they drove off themselves but,


if you want to pvp, make a psi/em
you forgot badges bro.