Robots capable of Deception created
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Posted on: 2010-09-10 18:14 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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And thus we return full circle to "Agh! Yudkowsky! You were supposed to keep them from making Skynet!"
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Originally Posted by Lothic
The real trick won't be making selfish robots.
It'll be making them just selfish enough to be productive members of society without being sociopathic.  |
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while deception and selfishness are defining traits of biological life, another is altruism. what is the difference between altruism from a biological perspective, and typical programmed group effort from wholly separate parts? or more precisely, if in the example above the selfish machine includes dynamic aversion to injury, then the next step would be to include a rider on that behaviour that states something to the effect of: 'if i have been injured, or my value uninjured is less than the value of another portion of the squad, then i should sacrifice myself to allow the higher value unit to survive'. it does walk around higher order thought/behaviour of: 'is there something i can do that allows both myself and the other unit to survive?' |
Originally Posted by Lothic
Qualities such as selfishness might be considered negative if they are taken to absolute extremes. But a basic component of the human ego is the need to assert itself and protect itself. If machines can be ingrained with the working concept of selfishness and a means to act on that desire (via the ability to deceive) then they would develop a functional degree of self preservation and by extension a degree of self awareness.
Obviously that has uses in a combat situation (a machine that doesn't "want" to be hurt will probably function more dynamically than a machine that has no real sense of self) but clearly this research will further contribute to the overall impending Technological Singularity in general. The real trick won't be making selfish robots. It'll be making them just selfish enough to be productive members of society without being sociopathic. |
what might be very interesting is the consumer and commercial use of semi independent robotics and the value placed on the robot either above or below that of a human being, and how that would impact the insurance industry and the businesses who can't legally be in business without insurance. would it be cheaper to disallow acts of 'heroism' on the part of the robot? would it be cheaper to allow a person to die over the destruction of the robot? etc.
one thing i always felt asimov got wrong with his 3 laws was that he assumed a level of care and attention to the individual human that really doesn't exist except as a mutually reassuring agreement in principle in society. further, if there's one thing we can say about corporations, it's their distinct ability to act like complete _________ and get away with it. now apply that to a revised 3 laws as written by, say, haliburton, or xe nee blackwater, or even apple for that matter.
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Well arguments of selfishness, altruism and insurance aside I think we all know that the iPod, iPhone and iPad are just stepping stones to the iDroid.
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