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Ragecrash and defenses...

Candlestick

By Candlestick,
Posted on: 2010-07-20 01:25 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion

 

Posted

Hi @all!

This is about rage in general, not only on brutes... so I'm posting in this forum.

I have a question that has been bothering me for some time now. This is about "Rage" on a SS/Shield Character. I did not spec into it because of the ragecrash. Though now after reading some of the posts in this forum about SS/x or x/SS characters I'm not sure about this skill anymore. I had it an my SS/Invul Brute and liked it... except for when it crashed. So I made my shield brute without it. The thing is shield really lives because of it's defenses, so my question is...

How does everyone get around the -def debuff from the ragecrash?

Aside from the lack of rage my brute is doing fine. I can go on forever without ever stopping to fight and I do massive AOE damage (footstomp, shieldcharge and ball lightning, I really love +2/8-Maps full of mobs). Killspeed is really ok with all the fury i generate and softcapped defenses and aid self and knockdowns... well let's say I almost never die.

If you'd like I can post my build later...

Cheers,
Schlu.

PS: I'm almost sure that this question has been answered in another thread which I have not found with searchfu. If so, please link me to it... Thanks!

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A while back, Castle was working on tweaks to the mechanics behind the Rage crash, which is when he settled on the current version as a "temporary" stop-gap until he could find something that didn't penalize a particular defense set more than its peers (used to be a short "only affecting self" and "no temporary powers" period, which was changed to the current -damage sometime after I11). While it's not possible to avoid the endurance crash or damage debuff, you can avoid by the defense debuff simply by stacking Rage. Just as the icon starts to blink in your buff bar, activate Rage again, and your defense won't drop. (You can stack Rage as soon as it's recharged, but I wouldn't really recommend doing so because it means more crashes, which is why I've switched to firing it off again as the previous instance is about to drop.)

TL;DR version: The defense debuff doesn't happen if you activate a new application of Rage before the previous one wears off.

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Posted

Thankyou... your help is much appreciated.

Now I have to get Rage back into the build and make it perma... this won't be easy because my brute's build is very tight. -.- and I thought i was finished... xD.

Have fun!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlu View Post
Thankyou... your help is much appreciated.

Now I have to get Rage back into the build and make it perma... this won't be easy because my brute's build is very tight. -.- and I thought i was finished... xD.

Have fun!
Rage is incredibly easy to Perma. If you have any global +recharge, 2 slots is all it needs.

 

Posted

3 recharge SOs will get it within a few seconds. Throw in Hasten and even a few +rech set bonuses and you'll be set.

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Alright, what would you think about this?

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DI Gene Hunt: Level 50 Natural Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch

  • (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
  • (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
  • (5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 1: Deflection
  • (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (7) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (9) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
  • (9) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (11) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (11) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 2: Battle Agility
  • (A) Serendipity - Defense/Endurance
  • (13) Serendipity - Defense/Recharge
  • (13) Serendipity - Endurance/Recharge
  • (15) Serendipity - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (15) Serendipity - Defense
  • (43) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 4: True Grit
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance
  • (17) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (19) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
  • (19) Healing IO
  • (21) Healing IO
Level 6: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 8: Haymaker
  • (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
  • (21) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (31) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
  • (33) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (36) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 10: Active Defense
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 12: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  • (17) Kismet - Defense/Endurance
Level 14: Super Jump
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
  • (27) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
Level 16: Against All Odds
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 18: Health
  • (A) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (40) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
  • (46) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 20: Stamina
  • (A) Endurance Modification IO
  • (39) Endurance Modification IO
Level 22: Knockout Blow
  • (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (23) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
  • (23) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
  • (25) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (25) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (27) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 26: Boxing
  • (A) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (36) Razzle Dazzle - Chance of Immobilize
  • (42) Razzle Dazzle - Endurance/Stun
  • (45) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (46) Razzle Dazzle - Stun/Range
  • (48) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
Level 28: Tough
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (29) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
  • (29) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge
  • (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (31) Aegis - Resistance
  • (34) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
Level 30: Weave
  • (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (40) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
  • (42) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (42) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (45) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 32: Foot Stomp
  • (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (37) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (39) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 35: Shield Charge
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (40) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 38: Aid Other
  • (A) Healing IO
Level 41: Mu Lightning
  • (A) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (43) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (46) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (48) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
  • (50) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
Level 44: Aid Self
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
  • (45) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
Level 47: Rage
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (48) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 49: Ball Lightning
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (50) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Fury
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
  • 15% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 15% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 15% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 15% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 15% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 15% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 15% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 15% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 9,88% Defense(Smashing)
  • 9,88% Defense(Lethal)
  • 14,3% Defense(Fire)
  • 14,3% Defense(Cold)
  • 11,8% Defense(Energy)
  • 11,8% Defense(Negative)
  • 6,13% Defense(Psionic)
  • 16,8% Defense(Melee)
  • 16,8% Defense(Ranged)
  • 16,1% Defense(AoE)
  • 28% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 30% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 2% Enhancement(Stun)
  • 4% FlySpeed
  • 101,2 HP (6,75%) HitPoints
  • 4% JumpHeight
  • 4% JumpSpeed
  • MezResist(Held) 8,8%
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 13,2%
  • MezResist(Stun) 2,2%
  • 8% (0,13 End/sec) Recovery
  • 38% (2,38 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 2,52% Resistance(Fire)
  • 2,52% Resistance(Cold)
  • 3,13% Resistance(Negative)
  • 14% RunSpeed
  • 2,5% XPDebtProtection



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