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I have had a bs/sd, spines/sr, db/regen, fm/wp, fm/da. So lets try my hand. In all of the above I will rank as general, not a ranking for each catagory.|
Originally Posted by TrainRobber
Howdy all, trying to rekindle my COH interests with two chars, but for now the scrapper.
I have settled on Claws as a nice balance between in AOE, Single target and looks. So Im curious how the Scrapper community rates these secondaries for the above mentioned claws. Smoothest 1-50 leveling. Best using SO's or common IO's. Best mission running. Best AV running using a less than 1 billion inf build. Most fun. obviously totally subjective. Best farmer. I may jut tally all the results and take the highest scoring. Was looking for a format like this. Smoothest 1-50 leveling Regen WP Inv Sr From best to worse. (just an example.) Thanks, Robber |
WP
SR
SD
inv
EA
DA
FA
I ranked willpower as the highest. As my own tastes don't really care for it. I like invun better.. Anyways willpower is the easyest to lvl, has great coverage on just about everything. Not sure it will do great in a AV solo fight, cuz of the hard hits is it's down fall. However IO's can turn a willpower into something grand. I just watched one tank 10 AV's at once.
SR second cuz with all but the tier nine, cj, weave and steadfast global +3% def, ur at soft capped def. And it is amazeing to watch too many dodged/deflected over your head.
SD third, cuz even though a lil squshie at times, witha good build it can acomplish a whole lot. not sure why I put sd in there. heh can't play with claws.
Invun... so far my over all fave. great res to the most used dmg types, and decent res to the rest. hugh +hp/heal, and invinciblity that will raise your defense to astounding numbers, and the to-hit facter too. people can modify invun to soft cap with one baddie, so there is that.
EA, I can't say to much very lowbie lvl'ed on that one, and that was brute side. decent resists, energy aborbption esk power, and a heal.
DA, Great controls, great over all resistances, heavy end (can be solved). used right da has many options for you. my xp here is a bit lacking too highest da was a lvl 28 fm/da brute.
FA, can't play, wish I could, but the constant flame sends my brain hay wire, with massive headaches in about 5 minutes. Mass amounts of damage, a heal, decent resistance, and a endurance recovery power, a ressurection power too.
I think I forgot about regen some where. regen is good, massive heals, great recovery, very active set though.
protector-knight: lvl 50 invun/axe tank
Lillian Brick: lvl 50 stone/stone/pyre tank
Hybrid-knight: lvl 50 db/regen scrap
Vengful-Nature: lvl 50 spines/sr/bod scrap
Element-Wizard: lvl 50 fire/storm/stone troll
All IMHO of course, and of these, I've only played Claws/SR, and only to 37.
Smoothest 1-50 leveling: Willpower, Regen
Best using SOs or common IOs: Willpower, Super Reflexes
Best mission running: Willpower, Super Reflexes
Best AV running using less than 1 billion inf build: Super Reflexes
Most fun: Super Reflexes
Best Farmer: Fire (for damage), Invuln (good taunt aura, massive survivability on smashing/lethal farms), Willpower (taunt aura, good survivability)
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Re: Werner
I really hope you're right about SR blossoming at some point, because sub 25 it blows.
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Super Reflexes is very late blooming. Pretty much all it has going for it is defense, which is very binary. And the more defense you have, the more each additional % of defense helps. But that means that at a low level, you barely have enough defense to help at all. You might as well not have a secondary. You really have to get all of the critical defensive powers, plus pick up some things to stack with it (e.g., Tough and Weave and a Steadfast Protection IO) before it starts to do its job well. Now, you can (and I did) soft-cap a Claws/Super Reflexes by level 36 using only a single IO, the Steadfast Protection. So you can be very, very survivable by that level with minimal investment. But that's still fairly late in the game, and I don't recommend doing it that way, because to get there, you have to skip a lot of utility and a lot of fun attacks. Instead, I'd focus on getting to 32.5%, and just use a small purple whenever I'm in trouble, and fill in the last 12.5% defense in the forties sometime.
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Originally Posted by Postagulous
Re: Werner
I really hope you're right about SR blossoming at some point, because sub 25 it blows. |
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
Videos of Other Stupid Scrapper Tricks
I've got a simple and cheap plan to cap all positions for my BS/SR without depending on Parry. This uses IOs, obviously, and doesn't gimp anything except maybe some recharge, if I remember correctly.
She's stalled in her low 20s now. I started a BS/SD just in case the rumors are true that the infamous Shield Charge is going to get nerfed. I personally think they have bigger fish on their plate [or whatever colloquialism.]
BS/SR was a walk in the park post 36 for me, and I wasn't capped at that point. I dont play it now it's 50, tricked it out in the late 40s, turned 50, stuck in some IOs and left it. But its a fairly safe combo later game with good bust damage
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
To the OP I love my claw/Inv, only a couple of foes to cap def, high resistance to S&L and dull pain when I need it. Claws works nice with the aura to gather foes before the stacked FU'd Spin and I generally only have to think about my primary rather than any survivability. I also love my DM/SR and think Claw/SR would work out fairly nicely but have 3 claws now so will be a gap before I play another, SR is always tempting
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
I used to have a claw/regen, I very happily remade him into the claw/sr I've been pining over for years. I'd suggest this over any other build personally. As mentioned claw/WP can also make a good choice.
Claw/Da is kinda underrated IMO but is also a very good build.
I'd avoid claw/invuln personally. I don't feel invuln to be *that* good on a scrapper to warrant it paired with claws. Sure it can work, but I just wouldnt suggest it, there are other better pairings IMO for invuln, like spines.
Claw/fire, meh I'd prefer the claw/dark which has pretty much the same feel to it.
To Protector: Claws and SD can't be used together.
Claws/elec: see claws/fire reasoning.
Claws/regen, it can work, after playing one for 5 years or so I can tell you I'd not suggest it, especially with the constant redraw. It does have one thing going for it though, a fast recharging shockwave, to let you have time to regenerate and click your heals.
Top choice would be without a doubt claw/sr though. At 25, you can still pop a luck and be pretty godly for that level, but the combo is just plain darned fun too!
Plasmic's Guide to Sonic/Mental
Plasmic's Guide to Regeneration
Plasmic Fire - 50 Fire/Rad Victory Server
Howdy all, trying to rekindle my COH interests with two chars, but for now the scrapper.
I have settled on Claws as a nice balance between in AOE, Single target and looks.
So Im curious how the Scrapper community rates these secondaries for the above mentioned claws.
Smoothest 1-50 leveling.
Best using SO's or common IO's.
Best mission running.
Best AV running using a less than 1 billion inf build.
Most fun. obviously totally subjective.
Best farmer.
I may jut tally all the results and take the highest scoring.
Was looking for a format like this.
Smoothest 1-50 leveling
Regen
WP
Inv
Sr
From best to worse. (just an example.)
Thanks, Robber