Please review: Ice/Fire


Direwolf21

 

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Hi guys, I'm kinda new to the tanker scene, but this Ice/Fire tanker is a lot of fun so far (level 33 atm). I've been outta game for about 2 years, and just recently returned.

I want the ability to be useful in teams and tank alot, but also have some solo ability.

Hows my build look? It looks pretty fun to me, but I'm just looking for any tips to make sure I'm not missing something obvious. Mostly interested in the power choices (how do they look)?

I don't have a TON of money (hope that'll change once this guy hits 50) so this is my cheapo non-set build. Only a couple sets in it. Mostly common IO's. Once I get that Physical Perfection at 49, I might drop a few End Reduc's in my attack powers.

Thanks in advance -- P.S. -- BLUE Fire on an Ice Tank = Win

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Level 50 Mutation Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Armor -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(11), EndRdx-I(13), EndRdx-I(15)
Level 1: Scorch -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(17), Acc-I(17), EndRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(19), Acc-I(21)
Level 2: Chilling Embrace -- ImpSwft-Dam%(A), P'ngTtl--Rchg%(3), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx(3), P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow(5), Taunt-I(5), Taunt-I(11)
Level 4: Combustion -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(7), Acc-I(7), Acc-I(9), RechRdx-I(21), EndRdx-I(27)
Level 6: Fire Sword -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(33), Acc-I(34), Acc-I(34), EndRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 8: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(9)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A), EndRdx-I(13), DefBuff-I(36)
Level 12: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A), Jump-I(15)
Level 16: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 18: Glacial Armor -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(36), EndRdx-I(37), EndRdx-I(37)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(33), EndMod-I(37)
Level 22: Icicles -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(23), EndRdx-I(23), EndRdx-I(25), Acc-I(25), Acc-I(27)
Level 24: Hoarfrost -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 26: Energy Absorption -- EndMod-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(33), EndMod-I(40), DefBuff-I(40), DefBuff-I(40)
Level 28: Fire Sword Circle -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(29), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(29), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(31), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 30: Boxing -- Dsrnt-I(A)
Level 32: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Incinerate -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(42), Dmg-I(42), EndRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 38: Greater Fire Sword -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(43), Dmg-I(43), EndRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 41: Tough -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(45), EndRdx-I(45)
Level 44: Weave -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(46), EndRdx-I(46)
Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- ToHit-I(A), ToHit-I(48), EndRdx-I(48), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(50), EndMod-I(50), EndMod-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 6: Ninja Run


 

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Is this a respec build or a level up build? Are those the only IO's you want, or the ones you currently have?

I have lots of changes that I would do. I dont have time to post it at the moment, but I will post a build or two when I get back from work or when I get the chance in a day or two.


YMMV---IMO
Ice Ember

 

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I have fire sword circle slotted that way now, and will be slotting Chilling Embrace that way soon.

My goal is for leveling up and being useful once I hit 50. Then I'd like to farm myself some cash, and start on some upgrades.

I appreciate any tips you can send my way thanks!

Oh ya, and while solo farming, I'd like to be able to do +1x8 .


 

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Originally Posted by Direwolf21 View Post
I have fire sword circle slotted that way now, and will be slotting Chilling Embrace that way soon.

My goal is for leveling up and being useful once I hit 50. Then I'd like to farm myself some cash, and start on some upgrades.

I appreciate any tips you can send my way thanks!

Oh ya, and while solo farming, I'd like to be able to do +1x8 .
+1 X8 will not be a problem at all. Dont waste the slots/enhancements on CE as you have them. Those slots can go elsewhere for better use.

My thinking is pretty simple for this and I went after certain set bonuses. You are going to think it is really expensive... but with doing many TF's the merits will build quickly to buy the IO's that are expensive. (and buy them at the lower level for +rech and the uniques so you can XM down to do the lower level TF's for the merits.)

This build increases your recharge without Hasten. Faster Energy Absorption means you dont run out of endurance which means you keep on fighting. You dont need a bunch to instantly cap your defense, which means when you have a bunch you are more resistant to debuffs. FSC, Combustion and Icicles for AoE. Scorch, GFS, and Incinerate for single target.

Build Up every 36 seconds will really help.

You probably wont need Hibernate... however, take it anyways for the OH CRAP factor....


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Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Armor -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(3), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(3), RedFtn-Def(17), RedFtn-EndRdx(17), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 1: Scorch -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 2: Hoarfrost -- Numna-Heal/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(9), H'zdH-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 4: Combustion -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(5), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(5), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(11), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 6: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Chilling Embrace -- Taunt-I(A), Taunt-I(46)
Level 10: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 12: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(37), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Heal-I(40), RgnTis-Regen+(43)
Level 18: Glacial Armor -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def(23), RedFtn-EndRdx(23), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 20: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(21), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(21), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(50)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(25), Aegis-ResDam(25), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 26: Energy Absorption -- LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(27), S'dpty-Def/Rchg(27), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), EndMod-I(34), EndMod-I(36)
Level 28: Fire Sword Circle -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(29), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(31), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 30: Weave -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def(33), RedFtn-EndRdx(34), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 32: Hibernate -- Heal-I(A)
Level 35: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(40), Rec'dRet-Pcptn(43)
Level 38: Greater Fire Sword -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 41: Incinerate -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(42), Mako-Dam%(42), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(42), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(45), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 44: Icicles -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(45), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Sciroc-Dam%(48), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 47: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 49: Taunt -- Zinger-Dam%(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 0: Ninja Run



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YMMV---IMO
Ice Ember

 

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Cool I like it! Almost the same as mine, but with better use of IO's .

So I shouldn't waste my time with Ancillary pools?

I was thinking of dropping Fire Sword once I got Greater Fire Sword, but that leaves me with VERY few attacks at lower levels. I'll only have 2 attacks until level 28, but I guess thats alright as I probably won't be exempting THAT much.

If I dropped Hurdle and Taunt, and picked up the Ancillaries that I originally listed, that wouldn't be too bad right?


 

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Originally Posted by Direwolf21 View Post
Cool I like it! Almost the same as mine, but with better use of IO's .

So I shouldn't waste my time with Ancillary pools?

I was thinking of dropping Fire Sword once I got Greater Fire Sword, but that leaves me with VERY few attacks at lower levels. I'll only have 2 attacks until level 28, but I guess thats alright as I probably won't be exempting THAT much.

If I dropped Hurdle and Taunt, and picked up the Ancillaries that I originally listed, that wouldn't be too bad right?
ancilliary pools are not a waste, just depends on what all you are wanting. I put those in because... they were only getting the base slot.

You do get respecs, and this is a respec build. (You never said what level you were.)

Build yours the way you want. It is your time and your fun. This is just an idea for you to see.


YMMV---IMO
Ice Ember

 

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Cool thanks Right now I'm 36 and moving along. I agree that I should work in Buildup there.

Do you think if I got hasten, I'd have perma-hasten with those slots? Would it be worth it, or not really?

Thanks again!


 

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I have near perma hasten on my ice/stone, and with a bit of tweaking I bet I could get it. It is fast enough to use Seismic Smash twice in one build up. Hasten is a reduction of a second or so at his recharge speed...

The difference from having hasten and not is very minimal with high recharge speed, though it will be an improvement in speed.


YMMV---IMO
Ice Ember

 

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Cool! Thanks a lot for the info, its all very helpful. Final question (for now! )

Would I be crazy to drop Incinerate for Fire Sword? I don't like the DoT because I find it usually doesn't have time to tick all the way. I think I'm going to keep my Fire Sword at lower level, drop Incinerate at 35, and take buildup then.


 

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Originally Posted by Direwolf21 View Post
Cool! Thanks a lot for the info, its all very helpful. Final question (for now! )

Would I be crazy to drop Incinerate for Fire Sword? I don't like the DoT because I find it usually doesn't have time to tick all the way. I think I'm going to keep my Fire Sword at lower level, drop Incinerate at 35, and take buildup then.
not crazy at all. Build up is great and worth it.


YMMV---IMO
Ice Ember

 

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Cool, I put together a build with most of your suggestions, and used a respec last night to put it all together . So far its working great, though I'm sure the few sets I managed to put in also help!

Its not all together different from my original plan, in terms of powers (I like getting icicles early, got firesword, etc), but the slotting is much more like yours.

Thanks a ton for the tips . I learned a lot about the different IO sets and bonuses!


 

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Thanks a ton for the tips . I learned a lot about the different IO sets and bonuses!
Glad I was able to help.


YMMV---IMO
Ice Ember