You might be better off breaking this into two different threads, one entitled "Ice/EnM build advice" and the other entitled "WP/SS build advice". That way people who have those builds might be more likely to read the thread.
Also, are these going to remain PvP builds or do you want to re-engineer? If re-engineering, where are you headed? PvE build? Farming build? Solo build?
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Originally Posted by Radium
edit: Since I seem to be getting a lot of views and no comments, I'm looking specifically for slotting suggestions for softcapping (or other means of maximizing survival on these characters). Positional, typed, etc?
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So, it's natural that you don't get a lot of comments for build advice. Both ice armor and willpower use typed defense, so it's more natural to slot them for typed defense instead of positional.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Radium
Case #1: Old Ice/EM tank, now partially neutered by the fact that the no-phase nonsense carries over to PvE. Reslot or gut?
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You're focusing on +recharge bonus, which is good as hoarfrost won't drop. I think it doesn't hurt to grab a little bit of defense bonus such that s/l/e/ne defense can be soft-capped even without energy absorption. I took your build and re-slotted below. I swapped energy transfer out for whirling hands. You can put it back in if you love energy transfer.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
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Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Energy Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(3), S'dpty-Def(5), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(5)
Level 1: Barrage -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(39), Zinger-Dam%(50)
Level 2: Hoarfrost -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(9), Dct'dW-Rchg(9)
Level 4: Bone Smasher -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(7), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Zinger-Dam%(42)
Level 6: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(11), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(11), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(13), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(13), Mocking-Rchg(15)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- ULeap-Jump(A), ULeap-Stlth(48)
Level 16: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Heal(17), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Numna-Heal(46)
Level 18: Glacial Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(19), S'dpty-Def(19), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(23)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-EndMod(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(23)
Level 22: Boxing -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(43), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(43)
Level 24: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(25), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(25), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 26: Energy Absorption -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Membr(27), HO:Cyto(27), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(31), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(31), P'Shift-EndMod(33)
Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), S'dpty-Def(29), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 30: Chilling Embrace -- EndRdx-I(A), Slow-I(33), Slow-I(34)
Level 32: Icicles -- M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(A), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 35: Whirling Hands -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(36), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(36), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(37), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Total Focus -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(43), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(45), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Hectmb-Dam%(46)
Level 41: Permafrost -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Aegis-Psi/Status(46)
Level 44: Hibernate -- Heal-I(A)
Level 47: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 6: Ninja Run
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Originally Posted by Radium
Case #2: Looked through some of the guides for softcapping WP; I'm not against that, but it just seems slightly strange considering the tradeoff with your attacks and some other powers *shrug* On a different server than the above so wanting a frontline powerhouse for similar reasons.
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I think your build is ok. There are room for further optimization. I re-slot your build, and take leadership instead of energy mastery. Keeping most of your attributes similar, the build below raises the defense above 40%.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
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Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Willpower
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Hero Profile:
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(5), Numna-Heal/Rchg(7), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(7)
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 4: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 6: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(21), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(27)
Level 8: Rise to the Challenge -- DisWord-ToHitDeb(A), DisWord-ToHitDeb/Rchg(9), DisWord-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(9), Numna-Heal(34), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(37), Numna-Heal/Rchg(37)
Level 10: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(11), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(11), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(13), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(13), Mocking-Rchg(15)
Level 12: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(15), P'Shift-EndMod(17), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(17)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(19), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(19), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 22: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(23)
Level 24: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(25), P'Shift-EndMod(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(27)
Level 26: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 28: Rage -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(29), HO:Membr(29), HO:Membr(31)
Level 30: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 32: Strength of Will -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(33), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(33), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 35: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(39), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(45), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(45), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(45), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Fast Healing -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(50), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(50), Heal-I(50)
Level 49: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 6: Ninja Run
Couple old characters I'm dusting off after the PvP nerfs generally made me shelve a large portion of my characters. I haven't crunched numbers most of my game career so I'm only generally familiar with the softcapping business, I guess my question is whether or not it will be worth it. Money not an issue (minus PvP IOs)
edit: Since I seem to be getting a lot of views and no comments, I'm looking specifically for slotting suggestions for softcapping (or other means of maximizing survival on these characters). Positional, typed, etc? Search of paragonwiki not turning up much since I don't know what keywords to look for.
Case #1: Old Ice/EM tank, now partially neutered by the fact that the no-phase nonsense carries over to PvE. Reslot or gut?
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Energy Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Armor -- HO:Cyto(A), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(5), LkGmblr-Rchg+(5)
Level 1: Barrage -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 2: Hoarfrost -- HO:Golgi(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal(11), Dct'dW-Rchg(11)
Level 4: Bone Smasher -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), HO:Nucle(17)
Level 6: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Chilling Embrace -- TmpRdns-Acc/Slow(A), TmpRdns-Dmg/Slow(17), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(19), TmpRdns-Rng/Slow(19), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(21)
Level 10: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(A), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(21), Zinger-Dam%(23)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- ULeap-Jump(A), ULeap-Stlth(25)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(23)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(25), EndMod-I(27), P'Shift-End%(27)
Level 22: Glacial Armor -- HO:Cyto(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31)
Level 24: Icicles -- HO:Nucle(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Sciroc-Dam%(33), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), Armgdn-Dam%(34)
Level 26: Energy Absorption -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(34), HO:Membr(34), Efficacy-EndMod(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(36)
Level 28: Build Up -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(37), HO:Membr(37)
Level 30: Permafrost -- Aegis-Psi/Status(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(37)
Level 32: Hibernate -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(39), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Dct'dW-Heal(39), Dct'dW-Rchg(40)
Level 35: Energy Transfer -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), HO:Nucle(42)
Level 38: Total Focus -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(43), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Hectmb-Dam%(45), HO:Nucle(45)
Level 41: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(45), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(46), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), TtmC'tng-ResDam(46)
Level 47: Weave -- HO:Cyto(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Case #2: Looked through some of the guides for softcapping WP; I'm not against that, but it just seems slightly strange considering the tradeoff with your attacks and some other powers *shrug* On a different server than the above so wanting a frontline powerhouse for similar reasons.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Level 50 Mutation Tanker
Primary Power Set: Willpower
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(3), ResDam-I(3), Heal-I(5), Heal-I(5), Heal-I(7)
Level 1: Jab -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(7), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mako-Dam%(11), Zinger-Dam%(11)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), TtmC'tng-ResDam(13), HO:Ribo(15)
Level 4: Haymaker -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(17), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 6: Indomitable Will -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Rise to the Challenge -- HO:Golgi(A), HO:Golgi(19), HO:Golgi(21), DampS-ToHitDeb(21), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg(23)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(43), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(43), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(46), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(46), Mocking-Rchg(46)
Level 14: Super Jump -- ULeap-Jump(A), ULeap-Stlth(23)
Level 16: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(25), P'Shift-End%(27)
Level 18: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(27), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), HO:Nucle(31)
Level 22: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), LkGmblr-Def(33), LkGmblr-Rchg+(33)
Level 24: Fast Healing -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(34), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(34), Numna-Heal/Rchg(43)
Level 26: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 28: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), TtmC'tng-ResDam(36), HO:Ribo(36)
Level 30: Rage -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(36), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(37), AdjTgt-Rchg(37)
Level 32: Strength of Will -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(37), ResDam-I(39)
Level 35: Health -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-Heal(50), Numna-Heal/Rchg(50)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(42), HO:Cyto(42)
Level 44: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def(45), LkGmblr-Rchg+(45)
Level 47: Physical Perfection -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(48), Numna-Heal/Rchg(48), EndMod-I(48)
Level 49: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet