I already replied in my guide's thread, but I'll copy paste the reply here. This is actually a better place to post your questions as more Dark Armor enthusiasts and number crunchers will spot your questions. You'll get faster and more varied answers. When it comes to IO builds, there is no single approach.
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Originally Posted by babyscid
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Hi back. Things tend to stay pretty informal here.| Hi Des,((or maybe because I do not know you this is to informal?)) |
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DISCLAIMER: All the builds in this guide use BoTz as the guide was written long before the nerf. While these builds are certainly good they are no longer quite as good. In the next version of this guide, I will be placing greater emphasis on Typed Defense over positional. This will cause the builds to look significantly different. See scrapper forums for on going discussions on the subject.
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Des, I only have -4 points on my dm/da and only got knocked back occasionally when I used to run KHTFs. I kept the 4 points because lots of people told me there isn't a noticeable difference between 4 and 8, if I wanted to ivest in KB prot I'd better go for 12 or stay with 4.
Same thing on my Stalker, 4 points (/ninjitsu), never been kb'ed noticeably. On my SS/Fire Brute I'll go for 12 just because with 4 or 8 fake nems can kb you and I intend on farming them later.
Do you notice differences between 4 and 8?
Thanks for the reply. If I may, another question?
Perhaps you answered it indirectly (or directly) and I was too obtuse to notice but would it be viable, at level 27, to start slotting in the sets at the level 30 range in now or would I be better off frankenslotting them until 50 and then go with sets?
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Ultimately it boils down to personal preference. Since I've been playing Dark Armor since issue 2, Knockback is a touchy issue with me (as in it used to REALLY PISS ME OFF!!!). As such, my response to it may be stronger than necessary. |
Originally Posted by Kioshi
Des, I only have -4 points on my dm/da and only got knocked back occasionally when I used to run KHTFs. I kept the 4 points because lots of people told me there isn't a noticeable difference between 4 and 8, if I wanted to ivest in KB prot I'd better go for 12 or stay with 4.
Same thing on my Stalker, 4 points (/ninjitsu), never been kb'ed noticeably. On my SS/Fire Brute I'll go for 12 just because with 4 or 8 fake nems can kb you and I intend on farming them later. Do you notice differences between 4 and 8? |
Another thing to consider is play style and teaming habits. If you primarily solo, you'll likely only encounter 1 or 2 KB happy mobs at a time. If you team frequently, depending on mob types, you may encounter larger number of KB happy mobs at once. (same would apply for certain difficulty settings.)
Below level 35 I find 1 Mag 4 -KB IO more than adequate. From level 35 on I start to notice the difference. I could certainly get by with one if I stick to small spawns or avoid troublesome mobs, but that's not fun IMHO.
When leveling my BS/DA scrapper I ran a Katie Hanon TF with only Mag 4 -KB. For the last two Mary Macomber fights I was essentially useless as I could not execute a single attack chain getting bounced away. A new mouse and keyboard later I slotted 2 more Mag 4 -KB IOs. A tad overkill, but I was still pissed.
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Originally Posted by babyscid
Thanks for the reply. If I may, another question?
Perhaps you answered it indirectly (or directly) and I was too obtuse to notice but would it be viable, at level 27, to start slotting in the sets at the level 30 range in now or would I be better off frankenslotting them until 50 and then go with sets? |
In my case, I start slotting level 30 set IOs at level 27. The logic being these are the final IOs I'll be placing in those powers, essentially saving influence/infamy as those slots never need be replaced...well until some dev goes around mucking up set bonuses, but I digress...
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Thanks Des. I'll keep 1 KB IO. I basically only team except on toons I like soloing (like Stalkers), but even then when I get invites I usually accept them (even on a Stalker you get lots of invites on Freedom, and there's always some teams active in F/Virtue/Justice on Repeat Offenders) except when chasing mayhems for badges (for the vill accolade) because i don't trust doing mayhems with big teams, 3 ppl at most because I can usually handle 3-men spawns if the others screw up.
Reason I'll keep one KB IO on the /DA is, besides the build will be tight even if I end up giving up CoFear, I pseudo tanked a LOT with my DM/DA and the KB was rare. Even on KHTFs, after the others took care of the flying witch spawns who spam Gale I was usually safe handling Mary. Anyhow KHTFs don't matter anymore, maybe I'll do it again once on some of my leveling toons because the 40+ ones have done it several times...
Yes thank you very much for your input. I think I may start to dabble in a little bit of the sets based off of your guides maybe adjusted slightly to personal preference of course( which is what its all about).
I just hope it doesn't cost too much. I have some money saved on virtue so should be ok. Been away for a bit so going to find out tonight if you can email inf across servers. If so.....I am set. If not I may have to be a little bit tighter.
I would prefer to stay on virtue seeing as this is where my darkie is. Just seemed to have found a bit of a home here as well. No SG yet but I am hopeful.
Picking a SG can be tricky business. Anyway, I am digressing again.
Once more.....my thanks
I posted this in your guide but thought I would throw it in here as well for added security
Hi Des,((or maybe because I do not know you this is to informal?))
I loved this guide so much I finally settled on making a dark/dark and am now 27.
My question to you is, what do you recommend from this point on as a good levelling/frankenslotting IO build to get me to 50 to then use your final IO builds?
Or conversely, do you just recommend level 30 common IO's all the way to 50?
I know you recommend a -KB. Is this too large of a question or unfair to ask? Searching doesn't seem to bring up to much on this specific topic. I found a guide to frankenslotting ((Fulmens I think but forgive me if I am wrong and it was very well done)) but it served to confuse me more.
That may be due in part that I am a male.....I digress.
Whew.....I think that is all. Sorry for the long windedness!!