FF +rech in Crack Whip?


Jharber

 

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What do you think? Is it worth it to put in a few more enhancement slots so i can slot +dam/range IOs (to increase the range) and then a FF +rech proc? Also, on an unrelated note, how does DS stack up in terms of end game AOE carnage as compared to a bots?


 

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Since Crack Whip is a cone and not a wide AoE like foot stomp, I personally would not slot that proc in it. I personally am not even taking it. I will just stick with lash.

As far as Demons go, I have a L32 DS/Thermal and besides the fact it was far to much buffing lol, they are nowhere near the aoe carnage that my bots/traps is and seem far less survivable. I love demons because well they are demons, but I think other sets like thugs and bots (especially in AoE) will outperform them. They are obviously better than Mercs, but what isn't. They have the potential to do a lot of damage, but your minions are basically all arsonist and all die very quickly imo. The only one who lives decently is the demon prince. I think demons are basically duel pistols, they look awesome, but don't perform at the god like level everyone thought or still thinks possibly.


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thanks for the reply jharber. i'll keep that in mind and probably slot it out. I was hoping FF would be useful in a cone like in nrg torrent for scrappers, but the range is just too short. As to the second point, i haven't reached 32 yet and thus have no idea what i'm talking about, but i'm getting the feeling too that demons is quick and flashy but lacks the overall boom that bots has. Maybe someone else will weigh in and provide their opinion?


 

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It's pretty easy to get at least 3 targets (solo) with crack whip...on an 8 man team it's even easier to get the target cap (10). So if you're skilled with cones, it's not a bad place for a force feedback proc. Also, I personally find Crack Whip superior to lash or corruption because it's a multi-target knockdown (that just happens to do decent damage + it has -RES on top of that)...that's what I use it for primarily...it's a way to help mitigate some damage. It doesn't really require heavy slotting to make it useful and therefore if you got the slots I'd put a feedback proc in it (I know I will).


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Well, Lash is a 40% chance of KD, and 10.66 end with no end red on an 8sec CD and crack whip is 25% chance of KD for 17.94 end with no end rec on a 15sec CD. I would rather concentrate on one harder target for less CD and less end than a "chance" for more targets with a much smaller chance to KD. Also, I am very good with cones because of playing dark melee, I actually am fond of most cones, I just don't want to have to take the extra time on a mastermind for a power like this. I will probably have enough to worry about as it is lol. Most people suck with small cones also.


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Originally Posted by Jharber View Post
Well, Lash is a 40% chance of KD, and 10.66 end with no end red on an 8sec CD and crack whip is 25% chance of KD for 17.94 end with no end rec on a 15sec CD. I would rather concentrate on one harder target for less CD and less end than a "chance" for more targets with a much smaller chance to KD. Also, I am very good with cones because of playing dark melee, I actually am fond of most cones, I just don't want to have to take the extra time on a mastermind for a power like this. I will probably have enough to worry about as it is lol. Most people suck with small cones also.
As a mastermind I find it more useful to KD up to 10 enemies as opposed to one hard one...but that's just my play-style. With crack which you could slot +FF in it and have a pretty reasonable chance of it going off..not something you could do with lash. In the end it's all about style...play-style that is.


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I think there are a lot of reasons to appreciate the value of the demon summoning mastermind attacks. The damage and the knockdown are both better than the other mastermind sets, but to me the -resistance is where it's at, not for more whip damage but more pet damage as well.

So in my lowly opinion, if you are repeatedly Cracking the Whip, go for the proc benefit. It can't hurt for the one slot in the fun factor.


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