just...no. i mean you slotted brawl with heca's for gawd sakes, short of kin combats, you don't, ever, EVER, slot brawl.
just because you have the inf to blow, doesn't mean you should slot brawl with heca's
Now this isn't the build i would use (or do) because i slotted for ranged defense and didn't find a need for purples but assuming you want to debuff and buff (and thats *it*) i guess you could use this, its atleast better than that piece of crap (with three slots to spare to do with what you will) note* not slotting sleet for damage
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Invention: Level 50 Technology Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A), Acc-I(11), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 1: Shriek -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Dam%(25), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(43), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 2: Scream -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 4: Snow Storm -- P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow(A), P'ngTtl-Dmg/Slow(5), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx(5), P'ngTtl-Rng/Slow(9), P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(9), P'ngTtl--Rchg%(31)
Level 6: Howl -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(7), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(15), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(23)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 12: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(13), LkGmblr-Rchg+(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(15)
Level 16: Shout -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(17), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 18: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(19), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 20: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(21)
Level 22: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(34), P'Shift-EndMod(42), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(46)
Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(40)
Level 26: Sleet -- RechRdx-I(A), ShldBrk-%Dam(27), ImpSwft-Dam%(27), Posi-Dam%(29), LdyGrey-%Dam(37), Achilles-ResDeb%(46)
Level 28: Amplify -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(33), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(34), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(34)
Level 35: Screech -- Amaze-Stun/Rchg(A), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(36), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(36), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(36), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(37)
Level 38: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- HO:Ribo(A), HO:Ribo(45), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(45), S'fstPrt-ResKB(45)
Level 47: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Membr(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 0: Ninja Run
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
If it were me starting from scratch i'd use this
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Invention: Level 50 Technology Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A), Acc-I(3), RechRdx-I(3)
Level 1: Shriek -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 2: Scream -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 4: Snow Storm -- P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow(A), P'ngTtl-Dmg/Slow(15), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx(15), P'ngTtl-Rng/Slow(17), P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(17), P'ngTtl--Rchg%(19)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Zephyr-Travel(19), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(21)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 12: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(25)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(31), Clrty-Stlth(31)
Level 16: Shout -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(27), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 18: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(31), RechRdx-I(33), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 20: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(33), RgnTis-Regen+(34)
Level 22: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(A), P'Shift-EndMod(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(34), P'Shift-End%(36)
Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(36)
Level 26: Sleet -- Posi-Dam%(A), LdyGrey-%Dam(36), ImpSwft-Dam%(37), Ragnrk-Knock%(37), Achilles-ResDeb%(37), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 28: Amplify -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(42), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(42), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(42), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(43), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(43)
Level 35: Screech -- Amaze-Stun(A), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(43), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(45), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(45), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(45)
Level 38: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(46), ResDam-I(48)
Level 47: Total Focus -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(48), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Mako-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 0: Ninja Run
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
I do want advice but saying "just...no" and then giving me that build... I'm lost.
Your build has some crazy stuff I don't understand, like an extra slot for 2 end reds in Assault when I have practically unlimited end, almost no +rech slotting in Sleet, 3 slotting PBU and Amplify for rech but only having 2 in Benumb? Extra slots in a travel power for BotZ, which is not only being nerfed but this is not a personal def build, it's a build to help my team kill faster and safer by double stacking sleets, having perma benumb and close to perma heat loss, etc. Plus as you can see in the one I posted I'm not even taking a travel power, as hurdle + ninja run is enough for me!
I slotted Sleet the way I did for recharge, not damage. It gets Ragna instead of Howl because I want recharge bonuses in both and the enhancement from Ragna is much more recharge oriented than Positron's is, and Sleet needs +rech way more than Howl does, at least for my playstyle. Maybe there's a better way to work this one out but I do not think that way is through gimping Sleet's recharge.
Show me another place in the build to get the 10% global rech I'm getting from brawl without dropping useful powers or gimping actual enhancement slotting? I fully admit brawl is only muling IOs here but I do indeed have the cash to and I don't see anywhere else to do it so easily; the build you posted sure didn't show me, since it's recharge values are much lower.
I respect that you prefer a ranged def based build, and I see the merits to a lot of players, but I specifically said I was usually doing end game TFs or similarly difficult fights, and I won't be tanking.
I don't mean to flatly reject your help, and I'm not trying to, but I don't see where you're going here, or where you get off calling the build I posted a "piece of crap" even though it does, by my own admission (why else would I post it here,) need tweaking.
Wow in the second build you even took SS, and then put an extra slot in it for a stealth IO, when not only does Arctic Fog + SS not need a stealth IO to begin with, it could've gone right in sprint saving a slot even if it DID need it.
Meanwhile there's an extra slot put in Temp Invuln for a -KB IO, that could be going in any 3 of the unnecessary SS slots as a BotZ.
Please don't insult me and then try and help me with slotting this bad.
I'm not sure how set on Power Build Up you are, but if you drop it along with Aid Self, then take the Psi Mastery Pool, you can gain 7.5% recharge, which is what you seem to be going for, mainly. I took the Performance Shifter proc out since you have plenty of endurance and replaced the 3% defense IO with Aegis Psi/Status Resistance since I think it stacks better with your other resistances.
Not sure this build is any 'better'. Just some ways to get a little more recharge out of it.
Also, brawl is not slotted. 
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again i said if it was me i would use that. i tend to pvp abit and out of habit slot it to max stealth in pvp, (since ss stealth isn't counted) and slotting in sprint is an extra .35 end/sec(?)
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Originally Posted by Seize
Wow in the second build you even took SS, and then put an extra slot in it for a stealth IO, when not only does Arctic Fog + SS not need a stealth IO to begin with, it could've gone right in sprint saving a slot even if it DID need it.
Meanwhile there's an extra slot put in Temp Invuln for a -KB IO, that could be going in any 3 of the unnecessary SS slots as a BotZ. Please don't insult me and then try and help me with slotting this bad. |
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
I suggest this. The recharge bonuses aren't as good, but the powers are enhanced in better ways. Amplify was replaced with frostworks, since aim doesn't help sonic's damage output as much as it does in other sets.
melee: 16.1
ranged: 16.1
area: 22.4
global recharge: 105
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
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Invention: Level 50 Technology Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ice Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), LkGmblr-Def(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+(21), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(29), S'fstPrt-ResKB(42)
Level 1: Shriek -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Dam%(25), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(43), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 2: Scream -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 4: Howl -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(5), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(9), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(9)
Level 6: Glacial Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), LkGmblr-Def(7), LkGmblr-Rchg+(7)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(13), LkGmblr-Rchg+(13), Aegis-ResDam(15), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(23), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(15)
Level 16: Shout -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(17), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 18: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(25), LkGmblr-Def(46)
Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 26: Sleet -- TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A), P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(27), RechRdx-I(27), Posi-Dam%(29), ImpSwft-Dam%(37), LdyGrey-%Dam(40)
Level 28: Frostwork -- Heal-I(A)
Level 30: Aid Other -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Heal(34)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(33), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(34), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(34)
Level 35: Screech -- Amaze-Stun/Rchg(A), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(36), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(36), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(36), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(37)
Level 38: Dreadful Wail -- Armgdn-Dmg(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(39), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(39), Armgdn-Dam%(40)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(45), Aegis-Psi/Status(46)
Level 47: Aid Self -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(48), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Dct'dW-Heal(50), IntRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 0: Ninja Run
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I finally found a Defender I enjoy enough that I want to spend a bunch of my saved up cash on a fancy IO build for.
I'm not interested in soloing this character. At all. I have very well slotted Tanks / Scrappers / etc. to do that with.
What I am interested in is maximizing my benefit to a team. This character is mainly used to tackle "hard" content if such a thing still exists, STF etc.
Cost is not really an issue as I'm sure you'll be able to tell after looking over what I have planned so far, but I still don't want to blow billions on a single PVP IO. Those are out, everything else is fair game.
Can you make this better while sticking to the theme I have going? Tell me all about it!
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
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Invention: Level 50 Technology Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ice Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), LkGmblr-Def(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+(21)
Level 1: Shriek -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Dam%(25), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(43), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 2: Scream -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 4: Howl -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(5), Posi-Dmg/Rng(5), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), Posi-Dam%(9)
Level 6: Glacial Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), LkGmblr-Def(7), LkGmblr-Rchg+(7)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Arctic Fog -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(13), LkGmblr-Rchg+(13), HO:Ribo(23), HO:Ribo(23)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(15)
Level 16: Shout -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(17), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 18: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(21)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(46), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 26: Sleet -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(27), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(29), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Achilles-ResDeb%(46)
Level 28: Amplify -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Aid Other -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Dct'dW-Heal(34)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(33), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(34), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(34)
Level 35: Screech -- Amaze-Stun/Rchg(A), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(36), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(36), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(36), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(37)
Level 38: Dreadful Wail -- Armgdn-Dmg(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(39), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(39), Armgdn-Dam%(40)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- HO:Ribo(A), HO:Ribo(45), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(45), S'fstPrt-ResKB(45)
Level 47: Aid Self -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(48), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Dct'dW-Heal(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(40), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(42), Hectmb-Dam%(50)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
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Set Bonus Totals: