Dark/Kin Corr

GhoulSlayer · 02-18-2010 07:39 AM

This is Dark Flea from freedom as he is now. I usually just take what drops I get and slot them unless they seem useless then I sell them. Occasionally, I'll buy a few to fill out sets. In all honesty I barely know anything about frankenslotting or getting soft cap or hard cap. I've heard the terms but I know very little about them. I would like to make Flea less susceptible to Mez and have him do more damage. The recharge rates are great but I wouldn't want to lose any. I'm kind of new to mid's so I hope I did this correctly:

"Edit": If it's possible to do all of this and add some accuracy and make my buffs/debuffs stronger too I would like to do that as well.

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Dark Flea: Level 50 Science Corruptor 
Primary Power Set: Dark Blast 
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics 
Power Pool: Fitness 
Power Pool: Concealment 
Power Pool: Teleportation 
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery 
 
Villain Profile: 
Level 1:  Gloom  --  SipInsght-ToHitDeb(A), SipInsght-Acc/ToHitDeb(3), SipInsght-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(3) 
Level 1:  Transfusion  --  H'zdH-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), H'zdH-EndRdx(7), Heal(7), Acc-I(9), EndMod-I(9) 
Level 2:  Moonbeam  --  ExtrmM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ExtrmM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(5), ExtrmM-Dmg/EndRdx(5) 
Level 4:  Siphon Power  --  Acc(A), Acc(11), EndRdx(13), EndRdx(13), RechRdx(15) 
Level 6:  Hurdle  --  Jump-I(A) 
Level 8:  Tenebrous Tentacles  --  TotHntr-Acc/Immob/Rchg(A), TotHntr-Immob/Acc(11), TotHntr-Acc/Rchg(15), TotHntr-Acc/EndRdx(17) 
Level 10:  Siphon Speed  --  ImpSwft-Dam%(A), Slow-I(33), Acc(33), EndRdx(33), Acc-I(34) 
Level 12:  Night Fall  --  Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(A), Acc(17), Dmg(19), EndRdx-I(19) 
Level 14:  Health  --  Heal-I(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(34) 
Level 16:  Increase Density  --  Aegis-Psi/Status(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(23), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(25), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(25) 
Level 18:  Torrent  --  Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(21), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(21) 
Level 20:  Speed Boost  --  P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(A), Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng(29), Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(31), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(31), Winter-ResSlow(31) 
Level 22:  Stamina  --  P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(37), P'Shift-End%(37) 
Level 24:  Stealth  --  DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff(40), EndRdx(40) 
Level 26:  Life Drain  --  Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(27), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(29) 
Level 28:  Inertial Reduction  --  EndRdx(A) 
Level 30:  Invisibility  --  DefBuff(A), DefBuff-I(43), EndRdx(46) 
Level 32:  Recall Friend  --  RechRdx(A) 
Level 35:  Transference  --  Acc(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), EndRdx(36), Range(36), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(37) 
Level 38:  Fulcrum Shift  --  Acc(A), EndRdx(39), EndRdx(39), Range(39), RechRdx(40) 
Level 41:  Scorpion Shield  --  LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42), EndRdx-I(42), DefBuff-I(42), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(43), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43) 
Level 44:  Focused Accuracy  --  EndRdx(A), EndRdx(45), EndRdx-I(45), ToHit-I(45), GSFC-Build%(46), GSFC-ToHit(46) 
Level 47:  Web Envelope  --  RechRdx-I(A), Acc(48), Acc(48), Acc(48) 
Level 49:  Summon Disruptor  --  RechRdx(A), Hold(50), Acc(50), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(50) 
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Level 1:  Brawl  --  Empty(A) 
Level 1:  Sprint  --  Empty(A) 
Level 2:  Rest  --  Empty(A) 
Level 1:  Scourge   
 

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Amy_Amp · 02-19-2010 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhoulSlayer

This is Dark Flea from freedom as he is now. I usually just take what drops I get and slot them unless they seem useless then I sell them. Occasionally, I'll buy a few to fill out sets. In all honesty I barely know anything about frankenslotting or getting soft cap or hard cap. I've heard the terms but I know very little about them. I would like to make Flea less susceptible to Mez and have him do more damage. The recharge rates are great but I wouldn't want to lose any. I'm kind of new to mid's so I hope I did this correctly:

"Edit": If it's possible to do all of this and add some accuracy and make my buffs/debuffs stronger too I would like to do that as well.

Reposted your build due to how it came out for you.

Soft cap for defense is 45%. Hard cap is much higher and you won't hit it. You "can't" do more damage on a Kin since Fulcrum should be putting you at the damage cap anyway. The only way to do more damage would be to be able to slot in -res procs somewhere, or damage procs. Siphon Power and Fulcrum will not buff the damage of a damage proc. You also can't make the buffs/debuffs better outside of slotting for more tohit debuff in the attacks and I highly don't recommend it.

Slotting advise forthcoming because that's an ugly build.

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Dark Flea: Level 50 Science Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Dark Blast
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Gloom -- SipInsght-ToHitDeb(A), SipInsght-Acc/ToHitDeb(3), SipInsght-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(3)
Level 1: Transfusion -- H'zdH-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), H'zdH-EndRdx(7), Heal(7), Acc-I(9), EndMod-I(9)
Level 2: Moonbeam -- ExtrmM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ExtrmM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(5), ExtrmM-Dmg/EndRdx(5)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Acc(A), Acc(11), EndRdx(13), EndRdx(13), RechRdx(15)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 8: Tenebrous Tentacles -- TotHntr-Acc/Immob/Rchg(A), TotHntr-Immob/Acc(11), TotHntr-Acc/Rchg(15), TotHntr-Acc/EndRdx(17)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- ImpSwft-Dam%(A), Slow-I(33), Acc(33), EndRdx(33), Acc-I(34)
Level 12: Night Fall -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(A), Acc(17), Dmg(19), EndRdx-I(19)
Level 14: Health -- Heal-I(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(34)
Level 16: Increase Density -- Aegis-Psi/Status(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(23), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(25), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(25)
Level 18: Torrent -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(21), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(21)
Level 20: Speed Boost -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(A), Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng(29), Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(31), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(31), Winter-ResSlow(31)
Level 22: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(37), P'Shift-End%(37)
Level 24: Stealth -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff(40), EndRdx(40)
Level 26: Life Drain -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(27), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(29)
Level 28: Inertial Reduction -- EndRdx(A)
Level 30: Invisibility -- DefBuff(A), DefBuff-I(43), EndRdx(46)
Level 32: Recall Friend -- RechRdx(A)
Level 35: Transference -- Acc(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), EndRdx(36), Range(36), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc(A), EndRdx(39), EndRdx(39), Range(39), RechRdx(40)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42), EndRdx-I(42), DefBuff-I(42), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(43), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 44: Focused Accuracy -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(45), EndRdx-I(45), ToHit-I(45), GSFC-Build%(46), GSFC-ToHit(46)
Level 47: Web Envelope -- RechRdx-I(A), Acc(48), Acc(48), Acc(48)
Level 49: Summon Disruptor -- RechRdx(A), Hold(50), Acc(50), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge

Amy_Amp · 02-19-2010 09:06 AM

Gloom. 1 acc, 3 damage, 0-1 end, 0-1 recharge. You have it slotted for the debuff and complain about damage. Hmmm.

Transfusion 1-2 acc, 3 heal, 1 recharge. The end mod really isn't worth slotting for. Even on a Kin that uses Elec.

Moonbean. Drop it for Dark Blast. Kins should be way too busy to wait for a 4.33 second(IIRC) animation.

Siphon Power. 1-2 acc, 0-3 recharge.

T.T. 2 acc, 3 damage, 0-1 end, 0-1, recharge. Again, you are slotting an attack for it's secondary effect over it's primary one.

Siphon Speed. 1-2 acc, 3 recharge. The slows are only really helpful in PvP.

Nightfall. 2 acc, 3 damage, 0-1 end, 0-1, recharge.

Health can be one slotted until you have slots to toss around. I mean, you have 3 slots in Health and yet only 4 if your AoEs?

ID. You could toss a KB protect in there and maybe one other slot. Again, 5 slots in this and 4 in the AoEs.

Torrent. Skippable, but I won't protest too much for taking it.

SB. I wouldn't slot for travel increase unless it's for PvP, or you hate your teammates. SB is hell in caves as it is. I usually go 3 end mod and call it a day.

Stamina looks decent. Skipping the need to take it debate.

Stealth sucks for def so I wouldn't it for that. Maneuvers is a vastly better pick.

Life Drain. Skippable. It does low damage and you don't need another heal.

IR. Slot for Jump.

Invisibility. The def is only worth slotting if you want to run it all the time and I'm neither for, or against it.

Recall when the nuke opened. Please hand in your corr card. Yes, it's useful, but it can taken at 49.

Transference. 1-2 acc, 2-3 end mod, 2-3 recharge. I tend to go 2, 2, 2. Range really isn't useful since you want to be close to where to fires off anyway.

Fulcrum. 2 acc, 3 recharge. Range, again, does nothing for you here.

FA. Take Maneuvers and Tactics and call it a day instead. Both toggles get 1 end reduc, and slot for what they boost.

Web Envelop. 2 acc, 1 end reduc, and put a Traps of the Hunter damage proc into it if you have the slot for it. This also comes across as a slightly wasted pick due to you having T.T.

Summon Disruptor. 1 acc, 3 damage, and hold if you have the slots.

I would also work in Hasten and Vengeance since you should be taking Maneuvers and Tactics anyway. Vengeance gets 3 slotted for def. A teammate dies and it makes pretty sure another one doesn't unless you were screwed to begin with.

Harkness · 02-19-2010 08:55 PM

I disliked your slotting, so I've just started from scratch. I've switched around a few powers too, based on my experience with Dark Blast and Kinetics, and what I think will end up providing smoother attack chains.

This is a SL softcapped build, with a radically higher Recharge. Compared to your build, it will feel like a tank against 70% of the game's foes, and you ought to be tearing through enemies at 2-3 times your current rate.

However, this build will cost a lot more than your current one. It's hardly an expensive build (compared to many high-end builds), but you might need to work for it.

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SL softcap: Level 50 Science Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Dark Blast
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Gloom

(A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(3) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
(5) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
(7) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 1: Transfusion

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(34) Doctored Wounds - Heal
(34) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
(34) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(37) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
(39) Accuracy IO

Level 2: Dark Blast

(A) Decimation - Chance of Build Up
(7) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
(21) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(23) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(25) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
(27) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 4: Siphon Power

(A) Accuracy IO
(5) Recharge Reduction IO
(43) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 6: Hurdle

(A) Jumping IO

Level 8: Tenebrous Tentacles

(A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge
(9) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance
(9) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize
(19) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range
(19) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
(21) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize

Level 10: Siphon Speed

(A) Accuracy IO
(11) Recharge Reduction IO
(11) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 12: Night Fall

(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(13) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(13) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(17) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(17) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
(43) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 14: Health

(A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(15) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(15) Healing IO

Level 16: Increase Density

(A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
(33) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 18: Kick

(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
(27) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
(29) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
(29) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 20: Speed Boost

(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge

Level 22: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(23) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(40) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
(46) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge

Level 24: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 26: Tough

(A) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
(40) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
(40) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure

Level 28: Super Speed

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 30: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(31) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance

Level 32: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(33) Recharge Reduction IO
(33) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 35: Transference

(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
(36) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge
(36) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
(36) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
(37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
(37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance

Level 38: Fulcrum Shift

(A) Accuracy IO
(39) Recharge Reduction IO
(39) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 41: Scorpion Shield

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(42) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(42) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance

Level 44: Focused Accuracy

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance

Level 47: Web Envelope

(A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance
(48) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize
(48) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge
(48) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range
(50) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
(50) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize

Level 49: Summon Disruptor

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Recharge Reduction IO

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Level 1: Brawl

(A) Accuracy IO

Level 1: Sprint

(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 1: Scourge

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GhoulSlayer · 02-20-2010 12:27 AM

Thanks guys, I'll probably do a hybrid of the advice both of you gave. I guess I wasn't clear enough but the biggest problem with the build as it is now is Mez. I know I can't get alot of protection from Mez directly but someone told me I should work on defense and that would help with everything. I try to load up on break frees all the time anyways but it would be nice if I didn't need to use them as much. I use stealth all the time and invis is for ghosting missions. I do alot of SFs. I like the idea of slotting sprint for stealth as well. I see no reason to slot brawl because I quit using it on all of my toons by level 25 anyway. I forgot to put them in my mids but I just have 1 run SO in sprint and 1 recharge SO in rest right now. As far as taking dark blast over moonbeam I don't like that idea. I use moonbeam for pulling mobs and I already have more attacks than fingers so I see no need to add another attack that I probably won't use anyway. I normally take leadership for all of my ranged toons but I like too many of the powers in this AT so I really couldn't find any room for it.

Harkness · 02-20-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GhoulSlayer

Thanks guys, I'll probably do a hybrid of the advice both of you gave. I guess I wasn't clear enough but the biggest problem with the build as it is now is Mez. I know I can't get alot of protection from Mez directly but someone told me I should work on defense and that would help with everything. I try to load up on break frees all the time anyways but it would be nice if I didn't need to use them as much. I use stealth all the time and invis is for ghosting missions. I do alot of SFs. I like the idea of slotting sprint for stealth as well. I see no reason to slot brawl because I quit using it on all of my toons by level 25 anyway. I forgot to put them in my mids but I just have 1 run SO in sprint and 1 recharge SO in rest right now. As far as taking dark blast over moonbeam I don't like that idea. I use moonbeam for pulling mobs and I already have more attacks than fingers so I see no need to add another attack that I probably won't use anyway. I normally take leadership for all of my ranged toons but I like too many of the powers in this AT so I really couldn't find any room for it.

With 45% S/L Def, you will be getting mezzed a lot less than you currently are. 45% is the magic "softcap" number.

I can explain that further, but there's many threads on it already.

The fundamental reason that we're advising you to take Dark Blast over Moonbeam is killing one hard enemy, like Arch-Villains on SFs. In those cases, you want to be firing off Dark Blast, Gloom and your Kinetics de/buffs. You can't afford to take 4 seconds out to cast Moonbeam, and none of your other attacks are dishing out as much damage as quickly as those two are. They are your highest Single Target DPS attacks.

Also, since they're both so quick, they don't get in the way of a quickly-needed Transfusion or Transference.

You might only use it on AV fights, but it will make a huge difference to your DPS.

And, personally, I always love to pull with Siphon Speed on a Kin. It brings me joy

GhoulSlayer · 02-20-2010 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Harkness

The fundamental reason that we're advising you to take Dark Blast over Moonbeam is killing one hard enemy, like Arch-Villains on SFs. In those cases, you want to be firing off Dark Blast, Gloom and your Kinetics de/buffs. You can't afford to take 4 seconds out to cast Moonbeam, and none of your other attacks are dishing out as much damage as quickly as those two are. They are your highest Single Target DPS attacks.

Okay, I can see your point but like I said I only use moonbeam for pulling mobs. I don't use it in fights. I already have 10 attacks and only 8 fingers (I don't use my thumbs). There are only 10 slots to a tray anyway. I can't put any more attacks in tray 1 which is where all of my attack powers are. Actually, I'd have to look but I think it's really 11 and there's already one power that I'm not using. Maybe I do have room for leadership then I just need to decide on 4 powers that I can do without.

Amy_Amp · 02-20-2010 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GhoulSlayer

Okay, I can see your point but like I said I only use moonbeam for pulling mobs. I don't use it in fights. I already have 10 attacks and only 8 fingers (I don't use my thumbs). There are only 10 slots to a tray anyway. I can't put any more attacks in tray 1 which is where all of my attack powers are. Actually, I'd have to look but I think it's really 11 and there's already one power that I'm not using. Maybe I do have room for leadership then I just need to decide on 4 powers that I can do without.

You need four attacks. The two ST and AoE attacks and that's really it. For pulling, I always use Siphon Power, and that's factoring in the near non-existence of me pulling on a Kin in the first place.

Harkness · 02-20-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GhoulSlayer

Okay, I can see your point but like I said I only use moonbeam for pulling mobs. I don't use it in fights. I already have 10 attacks and only 8 fingers (I don't use my thumbs). There are only 10 slots to a tray anyway. I can't put any more attacks in tray 1 which is where all of my attack powers are. Actually, I'd have to look but I think it's really 11 and there's already one power that I'm not using. Maybe I do have room for leadership then I just need to decide on 4 powers that I can do without.

De/buffs are not attacks. You currently have three regular attacks (two of which are AoE, and one of those is a low DPS immob) and a snipe.

If you're using the first tray as your "attack tray", I'd expect it to have Dark Blast, Gloom, TT, NF, Transfusion, SP, SS, Transference, Fulcrum Shift, and something else.

IR is a movement power, that's all, so it doesn't need to be in your "attack tray". SB and ID don't interact directly with enemies, so they don't need to be there.

Kinetics is a very clicky powerset. It keeps you very busy in that sense, and I can't think of another powerset that plays out feeling quite so... clicky.

If you're a mouse player, then using all 3 trays at once shouldn't be a problem.

If you're a keyboard player (which I am), then I'd advise you to bind your team-mates 1-8 to the numberpad keys 1-8, and then bind SB to 0 and ID to ALT+0, or another neighboring key.

For my kins, I also bind Transfusion and Transference onto the numberpad for being able to quickly boost team-mates off of their own target. I also bind in Read Fortune, and use numpad 9 to switch between my team-mate's living pets, if I have the time to SB and ID them too.

If you suffer from a physical disability (as many CoX players do), then you might find Kinetics a particularly challenging set to manage. In which case, do whatever you can

ETA: I'm sorry if any of this sounds harsh or like there's people "telling you how to play your character". I truly believe that you'll find a use for Dark Blast and that it's an important source of your DPS. However, at the end of the day, play whatever feels fun to you.

GhoulSlayer · 02-20-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Harkness

De/buffs are not attacks. You currently have three regular attacks (two of which are AoE, and one of those is a low DPS immob) and a snipe.

If you're using the first tray as your "attack tray", I'd expect it to have Dark Blast, Gloom, TT, NF, Transfusion, SP, SS, Transference, Fulcrum Shift, and something else.

IR is a movement power, that's all, so it doesn't need to be in your "attack tray". SB and ID don't interact directly with enemies, so they don't need to be there.

Kinetics is a very clicky powerset. It keeps you very busy in that sense, and I can't think of another powerset that plays out feeling quite so... clicky.

If you're a mouse player, then using all 3 trays at once shouldn't be a problem.

If you're a keyboard player (which I am), then I'd advise you to bind your team-mates 1-8 to the numberpad keys 1-8, and then bind SB to 0 and ID to ALT+0, or another neighboring key.

For my kins, I also bind Transfusion and Transference onto the numberpad for being able to quickly boost team-mates off of their own target. I also bind in Read Fortune, and use numpad 9 to switch between my team-mate's living pets, if I have the time to SB and ID them too.

If you suffer from a physical disability (as many CoX players do), then you might find Kinetics a particularly challenging set to manage. In which case, do whatever you can

ETA: I'm sorry if any of this sounds harsh or like there's people "telling you how to play your character". I truly believe that you'll find a use for Dark Blast and that it's an important source of your DPS. However, at the end of the day, play whatever feels fun to you.

Okay, I should have been more specific instead of just saying attack powers. By attacks I meant both attack powers and debuffs, anything that I click to use on an enemy. I already have the binds set up for buffing. Yes, I am a keyboard player and no I'm not handicapped.

GhoulSlayer · 02-20-2010 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harkness

De/buffs are not attacks. You currently have three regular attacks (two of which are AoE, and one of those is a low DPS immob) and a snipe.

If you're using the first tray as your "attack tray", I'd expect it to have Dark Blast, Gloom, TT, NF, Transfusion, SP, SS, Transference, Fulcrum Shift, and something else.

IR is a movement power, that's all, so it doesn't need to be in your "attack tray". SB and ID don't interact directly with enemies, so they don't need to be there.

Kinetics is a very clicky powerset. It keeps you very busy in that sense, and I can't think of another powerset that plays out feeling quite so... clicky.

If you're a mouse player, then using all 3 trays at once shouldn't be a problem.

If you're a keyboard player (which I am), then I'd advise you to bind your team-mates 1-8 to the numberpad keys 1-8, and then bind SB to 0 and ID to ALT+0, or another neighboring key.

For my kins, I also bind Transfusion and Transference onto the numberpad for being able to quickly boost team-mates off of their own target. I also bind in Read Fortune, and use numpad 9 to switch between my team-mate's living pets, if I have the time to SB and ID them too.

If you suffer from a physical disability (as many CoX players do), then you might find Kinetics a particularly challenging set to manage. In which case, do whatever you can

ETA: I'm sorry if any of this sounds harsh or like there's people "telling you how to play your character". I truly believe that you'll find a use for Dark Blast and that it's an important source of your DPS. However, at the end of the day, play whatever feels fun to you.

Okay, I should have been more specific instead of just saying attack powers. By attacks I meant both attack powers and debuffs, anything that I click to use on an enemy. I already have the binds set up for buffing. Yes, I am a keyboard player and no I'm not handicapped. I wouldn't be asking for help if I didn't think I needed it so no I'm not offended by your helpfulness.

P.S. I don't know why it made a new post when I tried to edit this.