Kat/DA: Critiques/Suggestions


ClawsandEffect

 

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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze View Post
Please tell me you don't actually use CP that way
Typically not...as in, not ever. It's actually moot, since I reslotted Flashing and am reworking the chain.

EDIT: OK, best chain I could come up with: DA->FS->GC->DA->SD->GC. No gaps, 3.21 EPS, which means I'm losing .24 End/sec without Death Shroud or CoF, which is essentially limitless End (it'd take ~470 seconds to fully drain, which is more than enough time for CP to come back). With CP up, I can afford the to run the chain+Death Shroud. The only thing I'm not thrilled with is the Achilles proc only getting checked every 5.3 seconds or so.


 

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Not like me to do this, but

*bump*

I suck at attack chains, just want to give folks a chance to rip mine so I can improve it.


 

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Originally Posted by StormDevil View Post
Not like me to do this, but

*bump*

I suck at attack chains, just want to give folks a chance to rip mine so I can improve it.
If I forget to get back to you, and nobody else does, just shoot me a PM to remind me about the thread. I meant to get to this tonight, but it's not happening - I is sleepy!


"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Well, my attack chains consist of Whatever's recharged>whatever's recharged>whatever's recharged>whatever's recharged>repeat, so I can't be much help on that aspect of it.

I just don't really care that I could get 2.6 more DPS if I swapped this around here and put more recharge in that, so it's not something I put a whole lot of thought into.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Heresy you say?

What good does 2.6 more DPS do me if I don't live long enough to see any real benefit from it?

Answer that one smart guy!


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
Heresy you say?

What good does 2.6 more DPS do me if I don't live long enough to see any real benefit from it?

Answer that one smart guy!
Not much! Which is probably why, despite having a fascination with DPS, I don't have a single Scrapper that breaks 200. But if all it takes is swapping a few things around without any real compromise, I'm not leaving 2.6 DPS on the table either.


"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Originally Posted by Werner View Post
Not much! Which is probably why, despite having a fascination with DPS, I don't have a single Scrapper that breaks 200. But if all it takes is swapping a few things around without any real compromise, I'm not leaving 2.6 DPS on the table either.
It's funny, Werner and I see eye to eye on the forums with remarkable consistancy. Yet when we actually make builds and play them, he goes for super survivability at the cost of DPS, and I go for super DPS at the cost of survivabilty.

I suspect the difference is he solos more and tests himself to see what he can survive, whereas I team whenver I have a chance and generally kill stuff with reckless abandon only slightly concerned for survival (mine or anyone else's).

I don't have a level 50 toon with less then 220 dps.


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Originally Posted by Shred_Monkey View Post
It's funny, Werner and I see eye to eye on the forums with remarkable consistancy. Yet when we actually make builds and play them, he goes for super survivability at the cost of DPS, and I go for super DPS at the cost of survivabilty.

I suspect the difference is he solos more and tests himself to see what he can survive, whereas I team whenver I have a chance and generally kill stuff with reckless abandon only slightly concerned for survival (mine or anyone else's).

I don't have a level 50 toon with less then 220 dps.
I figure I really need to make myself a Fire/Shield pumping out massing single target AND AoE damage. Just for the experience. So what if I can't solo an AV, or have to get lucky, or have to take an inspiration. It's not going to be blaster squishy, and I've still played a couple blasters to 50 and enjoyed it.

Something like that probably IS next. I feel like I keep playing around trying to get the most survivable scrapper I can get. Now I feel like maybe I finally have that. Time to pursue something else, like damage.

Except that next up, I'm supposed to be level pacting to a Blaster, so I was thinking of making a Tank. *sigh* So many possible alts, so little time. Wait, Shield Defense has a taunt aura. Not sure it's enough to keep aggro away from a Blaster, but I can give it the good old college try. Blasters need to know how to manage their own aggro anyway.

Hmmm.


"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Originally Posted by Werner View Post
Except that next up, I'm supposed to be level pacting to a Blaster, so I was thinking of making a Tank. *sigh* So many possible alts, so little time. Wait, Shield Defense has a taunt aura. Not sure it's enough to keep aggro away from a Blaster, but I can give it the good old college try. Blasters need to know how to manage their own aggro anyway.
If my DB/WP could keep agro off a fire blaster, you should have no problem with a Shield Defense scrapper.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
If my DB/WP could keep agro off a fire blaster, you should have no problem with a Shield Defense scrapper.
OK, good. Sold. Probably my memory is skewed by peeling aggro off of an experienced taunting Tank with a fire Blaster. But the Tank was Willpower, there were actually TWO fire Blasters, and we were hunting +4s and +5s. There won't be any +4s and +5s with a mere Scrapper/Blaster pairing.

Sorry for getting so very far afield of the topic, StormDevil. Particularly when I already "owe" you an attack chain analysis.


"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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No worries, I'm in no hurry. I don't level as quickly as most, so it'll be a while before I could implement any suggestions ingame, anywho.


 

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Originally Posted by Werner View Post
I figure I really need to make myself a Fire/Shield pumping out massing single target AND AoE damage. Just for the experience. So what if I can't solo an AV, or have to get lucky, or have to take an inspiration. It's not going to be blaster squishy, and I've still played a couple blasters to 50 and enjoyed it.
My only experience with a blaster was 30 levels of fire/cold, so I can't say much on that.
But farmin the wall on my fire/shield is a 2 process thing...
Shield Charge > FSC -next mob- BU > Fire Ball > FSC - repeat