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Bane for disruption? (build too)

ConFlict

By ConFlict,
Posted on: 2010-01-26 16:33 in Everything about PvP

 

Posted

I was wondering if there was any real reason to play a fort since a bane can make a reasonably comparable stalker hunter and is still able to do some disruption debuffing on a spike.

I was wondering how viable something like this would be for arena (some zone) and how the build looks.

I was hoping to get tactics atleast so I could solo cap perception, but I didn't really feel strong enough to drop fitness or jumping...

Also placate would have been nice.


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Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Bane Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Bane Spider Training
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Single Shot

  • (A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Devastation - Damage/Recharge
  • (3) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (5) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
  • (19) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
Level 1: Bane Spider Armor Upgrade
  • (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
  • (39) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
  • (39) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
  • (40) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance
  • (40) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (50) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
Level 2: Wolf Spider Armor
  • (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
  • (34) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
  • (37) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
  • (37) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance
Level 4: Combat Training: Defensive
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (5) Karma - Knockback Protection
  • (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 6: Build Up
  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
  • (7) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (7) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (15) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
  • (17) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 8: Wide Area Web Grenade
  • (A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize
  • (9) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge
  • (9) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
  • (13) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (15) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
Level 10: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (11) Karma - Knockback Protection
  • (11) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  • (13) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
Level 12: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 14: Super Jump
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
Level 16: Health
  • (A) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (17) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  • (43) Miracle - Heal
  • (46) Miracle - Heal/Endurance
Level 18: Shatter
  • (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (34) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (50) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
Level 20: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
  • (21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
  • (23) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
  • (43) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 22: Tactical Training: Leadership
  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
  • (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
  • (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
  • (31) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception
Level 24: Cloaking Device
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (25) Karma - Knockback Protection
Level 26: Mental Training
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 28: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (29) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (29) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 30: Super Speed
  • (A) Celerity - Endurance
  • (31) Celerity - RunSpeed
  • (31) Celerity - +Stealth
  • (33) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
Level 32: Acrobatics
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 35: Surveillance
  • (A) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure
  • (36) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure
  • (36) HamiO:Lysosome Exposure
  • (36) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
  • (37) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
  • (40) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
Level 38: Stealth
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (39) Karma - Knockback Protection
Level 41: Web Envelope
  • (A) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (42) Trap of the Hunter - Immobilize/Accuracy
  • (42) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
  • (42) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (43) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
Level 44: Pulverize
  • (A) Gladiator's Strike - Accuracy/Damage
  • (45) Gladiator's Strike - Damage/Recharge
  • (45) Gladiator's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (45) Gladiator's Strike - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (46) Gladiator's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech
  • (46) Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 47: Invisibility
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (48) Karma - Knockback Protection
Level 49: Phase Shift
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Conditioning
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Set Bonus Totals:
  • 13% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 13% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 13% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 13% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 13% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 13% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 13% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 13% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 6.13% Defense(Smashing)
  • 6.13% Defense(Lethal)
  • 3% Defense(Fire)
  • 3% Defense(Cold)
  • 3% Defense(Energy)
  • 3% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 4.56% Defense(Melee)
  • 3% Defense(Ranged)
  • 3% Defense(AoE)
  • 2.25% Max End (in PvP)
  • 5% Enhancement(Immobilize)
  • 55% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 31% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 15% FlySpeed
  • 241 HP (22.5%) HitPoints
  • 15% JumpHeight
  • 15% JumpSpeed
  • Knockback (Mag -36)
  • Knockup (Mag -36)
  • MezResist(Confused) 12.5%
  • MezResist(Held) 12.5%
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 20.2%
  • MezResist(Repel) 1000% (10% chance, in PvP)
  • MezResist(Sleep) 16.9%
  • MezResist(Stun) 12.5%
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 12.5%
  • 20% Perception
  • 18% (0.32 End/sec) Recovery
  • 22% (1.18 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 1.89% Resistance(Smashing)
  • 1.89% Resistance(Lethal)
  • 2.52% Resistance(Fire)
  • 2.52% Resistance(Cold)
  • 15% RunSpeed



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Posted

You are probably going to get tossed like a ragdoll with that build ;_;. I posted the build I use on mine in an old thread here
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=203257

It can use some tweaks but it is viable. You want to try to cram as much ranged defense , kb protection and +hp as you can into any bane build. They do work extremely well as disruption. You will definitely want to go with p ray over any other ranged attack. That long dot is sexy. Be aware that wawg does mess with kb on the target.



Edit, missed acro in your build so the kb should be fine. Mine doesn't have it so it was a brain fart.

Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.

 

Posted

My build has 50 more hp and hiber instead of phase...I still have basically the same kb prot too.

Yea, I know wawg has -kb, I'd use that off target / maybe even on a stalker.

Figured I'd want p-ray but wasn't 100% certain, thanks.

Is that ranged defense really gonna save me that much over the hp and hiber...?

 

Posted

Veats are one of the few toons left that can get any real benefit from large amounts of +def. Now if we could get the devs to give them a touch of elusivity and maybe a small damage buff.

Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by ConFlict View Post
Veats are one of the few toons left that can get any real benefit from large amounts of +def. Now if we could get the devs to give them a touch of elusivity and maybe a small damage buff.
I'd be all for giving back the 15% damage that was taken away. However, I can't support giving elusivity to banes. Between their CT: D being ranged defense, the available resistance from the passives, and the high hp cap, if built correctly it would have survivability around regen's level.

As for the defenses making a difference… A toon with 70% accuracy from slotting, and 40% from sets, and tactics will have an 83% chance to hit a toon with 31% defenses after DR.
The same toon with….
33% defense will have a 77% chance to be hit.
36% defense will have a 69% chance to be hit
39% defense will have a 60%… and so on.

That is without elusivity. IMO every bit of defense counts.

 

Posted

I really don't see why anybody would play a bane when you could play a NW instead.

Maybe I'm missing something, but a NW seems to be able to do absolutely anything a bane can do...except also with inherent KB protection and Elude.

 

Posted

Unless I'm thinking about it wrong I don't see a reason to go widow over bane...atleast banes have another webnade and surveillance

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermax View Post
I really don't see why anybody would play a bane when you could play a NW instead.

Maybe I'm missing something, but a NW seems to be able to do absolutely anything a bane can do...except also with inherent KB protection and Elude.
Banes have more HP and the build isn't quite as tight as a Night Widow.

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