The level of the enemy improves their accuracy, but not their to-hit, up to +5 anyway. In practice, that means that their level won't make a huge difference in how easily they hit you. But to answer the question, eh, it depends on what you notice. I think the rule of thumb around here is probably in the 20% to 30% range, but I wouldn't personally hesitate to pick up 15% defense, even if that was all I could get. Once you head above 30%, it starts getting very noticeable. Above 40%, and every percentage point is making a significant difference. Whether or not you can notice it is a different story, but it's significant. Then you hit 45%, and further defense is only helpful when your defense is debuffed or you're facing enemies with more than normal to-hit.
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Thanks guys. I'm looking at a build with about... 37% give or take. So hoping it works out well for me.
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Thanks guys. I'm looking at a build with about... 37% give or take. So hoping it works out well for me.
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Very, very noticible.
One more quick question. Would there be a noticable difference between 37% and 34% defense?
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Yep. The 34% will take 23% more damage.
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One more quick question. Would there be a noticable difference between 37% and 34% defense?
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Thanks. May I ask what the calculation to determine this is?
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Yep. The 34% will take 23% more damage.
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Yep, see ParagonWiki for Attack Mechanics.
But the short version is that you subtract your defense from 50%. What's left is... sorta... how often you get hit. 34% gets hit 16% of the time. 37% gets hit 13% of the time. So 16%/13% = 123%, so you're taking 23% more incoming damage on average at 37%.
Getting a little more complicated, accuracy buffs are applied to that percentage. Someone at default accuracy is 100%, so no change. A +2 minion has 120% accuracy, not 100%, so that 16% becomes 16%*120%=19.2%. But the ratios between two different levels of defense stay the same, so it's extraneous when discussing how much less or extra damage you're taking.
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So I'm making a controller and yes I know this is the scrapper forum but I had a question I felt best applied to you all here. I was wondering what defense value will really start to make a noticable difference in how much say... a +2 would hit you?