Scrapper -VS- Stalker Question


Chaos_String

 

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What is the best DPS chain for Ninja Blade/stalkers, is it the same as a Scrappers Katana chain? I only asked here b/c I usually post here in Scrappers area where I know the Math alumni are. Thanks.


 

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Since Ninja Blade is simply an AT tweaked port of Katana, then, yes, the best ST attack string would be the same as for Scrapper Katana. The only difference between the two (aside from the reduction in damage thanks to AT mods and the reordering of a few powers) is that Scrappers get Confront and The Lotus Drops and Stalkers get Placate and Assassin's Blade. Assassin's Blade has completely atrocious DPA and has no place in an attack string so it follows suit that you'd want to use the Scrapper attack string.


 

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Actually the animation times are different also. Gambler's Cut is faster for scrappers, while basically everything else is faster for stalkers. Not sure if this would necessitate/facilitate a different attack chain, but it might.


 

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Originally Posted by Chaos_String View Post
Actually the animation times are different also. Gambler's Cut is faster for scrappers, while basically everything else is faster for stalkers. Not sure if this would necessitate/facilitate a different attack chain, but it might.
I know that City of Data hasn't been updated in a while, but it disagrees with you. Check out Ninja Sword and Katana. The animation times are all exactly the same for the same powers. Mids happens to agree with me as well. I would check in game, but the servers are currently down but I'm rather confident that the animation times are all the same there as well.


 

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Ok, so my next question would be then, is Gamblers Cut still better than Sting of the Wasp for DPS? With the lowered damage, would it's DPS output be able to contribute to an Attack Chain?


 

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I know that City of Data hasn't been updated in a while, but it disagrees with you. Check out Ninja Sword and [/url=http://www.redtomax.com/data/powers/archetype.php?at=5#Scrapper_Melee.Katana]Katana[/url]. The animation times are all exactly the same for the same powers. Mids happens to agree with me as well. I would check in game, but the servers are currently down but I'm rather confident that the animation times are all the same there as well.
Just checked in game, the powers list the same activation times in the character creation screen. I'm gonna have to think that the difference is a myth.


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Ok, so my next question would be then, is Gamblers Cut still better than Sting of the Wasp for DPS? With the lowered damage, would it's DPS output be able to contribute to an Attack Chain?
Well, assuming that we're operating off of the conclusion that all of the data we've found is correct rather than believing what is probably a completely inaccurate myth, Gambler's Cut is going to have slightly lower DPA than Sting of the Wasp but it's going to be substantially faster. Within the confines of an attack string (such as GD>GC>SD>GC, which would be optimal for pure DPS), you'd want to use GC rather than SotW simply because both powers have DPA substantially below GD and SD, to such an extent that using SotW is actually worse than GC, especially when you start putting procs into the power in question (which would benefit GC by about a third more, allowing the power to pull ahead anyway).


 

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I know that City of Data hasn't been updated in a while, but it disagrees with you.
So it does. Confirmed in-game as well, the animation times are identical; I stand corrected.