My first Hero.......is a SCRAPPA!!!

Hi Scrappers!!! After 6 months of solid villainy I have decided to try out the fresh-aired, clean streets of Paragon! Now I did put some consideration into each archetype for heroes, but being a villain for so long, there's only one kind of hero that can suit me, a SCRAPPER!!!

So! I took claws/regen because I have never tried regen before, my only stalker is /nin.

I ask your advice, what can I skip now or drop at later levels? Regen really has 2 self heals?
Why do I keep looking for my fury bar? Is the base damage really higher than Brute's cause it sure looks like it. And finally, would phase shift be good to take for when MoG crashes, or would there be a better 'escape'?

Regeneration is a click intensive secondary that pares well with defense so slot for recharge and try and get as many defense buffing powers like weave and combat jumping.

Take Quicky Recovery, Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Integration, Instant Healing, Moment of Glory and possibly Resilience.

Don't drop any of those skip Revive, that is what awakens are for.

MoG doesn't crash and if you want phase shift go buy the temporary power phase shift and save yourself two power choices.

As for claws I cannot really help you there as I don't know much about that primary

Good luck!

cool, ty! I was planning on going with sj so cj is definitley on the horizon. Maybe ss too if I'm feeling crazy. I wonder if there are any updated guides for this..........

no MoG crash? right on!

EDIT: If I take quick recovery, is it ok to skip stamina? Or would they be great together?
I suppose the same can be asked for fast healing.

I am not the regen guy, umbral and Werner can help, but I think you want health and fast healing.

Claws are nice because of the low end usage. I think most builds push stamina into the 40s though.

Its the damage mulitplier, scrappers is higher then brutes so the damage is going to be better across the board. But I don't know how fury affects brute damage either.

Regeneration is a very active secondary with multiple clicks that you will use routinely. You have to pay attention, you have to predict what's coming your way, you have to make split second decisions in order to stay alive. And it's a school of hard knocks. All that said, I think it's the most rewarding secondary when you get everything right. On the down side, you pretty much have to get everything right in order to get the survivability of other secondaries.

Yes, the base damage is significantly higher than Brutes to make up for the lack of fury. You also get critical hits.

I do not recommend Phase Shift. If you aren't smashing in faces, you aren't a Scrapper.

I do not recommend skipping Stamina. You COULD, particularly with Claws, which uses less endurance than normal. But I recommend running a whole lot of toggles, and you're going to need a lot of endurance recovery to pull it all off. Think of limitless endurance as a perk of the set. That said, don't take Stamina at 20. You probably won't "need" it until the 30s or 40s.

Below is my standard boilerplate for Regen. This was written a while ago. I'm even more convinced of the value of recharge at this point, so I very strongly recommend Speed over Leadership, rather than merely recommending it. As far as set IOs go, just make sure you cover the enhancement levels indicated by the SO slotting, then you're shooting for recharge, recharge, MORE recharge, and finally defense.

“There are definitely other approaches, but here's what I'd consider a basic plan for the Regeneration secondary using SOs or common IOs:

- Fast Healing at 1, 3 heals
- Reconstruction nice and early, 3 heals, 3 recharges
- Quick Recovery nice and early, 1 endurance modifier at first, add 1 or 2 more as necessary
- Dull Pain when or shortly after when available, as there is a lot to squeeze in at that level, 3 heals, 3 recharges
- Integration at 16, 3 heals, possibly 1 endurance reducer
- Resilience when and if you can work it in, 1 resist
- Instant Healing when or shortly after when available, 1-3 recharges, no heals unless you're swimming in slots
- Skip Revive
- Moment of Glory when or shortly after when available, 1-3 recharges
- Hasten when convenient, 3 recharges
- Health when convenient, 3 heals
- Tough when convenient, 3 resists, 1 endurance reducer
- Stamina if and when you start having endurance trouble, which may not be until 30 or later, 1 endurance modifier at first, add 1 or 2 more as necessary

If it were me, I'd also try to get some basic defense, but it will use up even more power and pool choices. Combat Jumping or Hover, but don't worry about slotting for defense. Weave with 3 defense. Maneuvers with 3 defense. The Steadfast Protection unique in Resilience or Tough. With even-level SOs, that will give you 14.3% defense to all. Not great, but not bad.

The astute observer will notice that I've now recommended 5 power pools – Leaping or Flight, Fitness, Fighting, Leadership and Speed. You can't have everything, so you'll need to make some choices. I dropped Speed, using IO set bonuses and my primary (Katana) to drastically improve my defense. Most people should probably drop Leadership instead. You'll probably find Hasten more useful than Maneuvers.”

I love my Claws/, grats on rolling one!

Werner has covered everything, I just add what springs to my mind.
Get your HPs towards the scrapper cap.
Everything in Regeneration gets better with more total HPs.
Dull Pain being "always on" is nice.
I have DP on auto for my Kat/Regen (no Hasten on her).
On the other hand I have Hasten on auto for my Claws/WP (no DP on her, sort of "build-in" with HPT).

On Claws/Regen you probably want Hasten on auto and then click DP when it's ready (or needed, yes it's a nice heal and has also Toxic RES build-in).

If you had to skip 2 powers in Regen, Revive first and Resilience second, but Resilience might be good if you plan to PvP or fighting extreme mezzers like Carnies.

Claws "IMO" is the mother of the fury concept in that you can stack up multiples of Follow Up for an increasing damage and To-Hit buff which you can maintain only by constantly attacking.
So Follow Up is probably your "key attack", I'd say ACC and RECH first, DAM and END second (later you can try to focus on DAM and END too here).

My Claws/WP has no Fitness pool, with Physical Perfection you can get around the same numbers for Recovery (check out this thread: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=194955).

Attack Chain for Claws:
For AVs I'm running 2 alternating sequences because of a slightly too long recharge in Eviscerate.
(Follow Up > Focus > Slash > Swipe) > (Follow Up > Focus > Eviscerate) repeat
Replace Swipe with Strike or go with Bill's attack chain if you don't plan on superfast recharge (Followup, Slash, Focus, Eviscerate ... http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=196838)

As a mitigation tool for nasty alpha strikes there's Shockwave.
I've rescpec'd it out some time ago on my Claws/WP but it's probably handy for a /Regen as an opener move.

If you plan to IO out your toon later on, extra defense - while it's good to have - takes a lot of planning on Claws/Regen.

Good luck and have fun scrapping

Lemme say welcome, as my first scrap was a db/regen. I just recently ran him today, and it is tougher than I had first percieved.

he was the gate way to my 4 scrapper alts. I went from troller to tank to scrap, scrapper lock is mighty fine thing to enjoy

awesome! thanks guys, I'll be referring to this thread the whole way up now probably, lol. I looked for a guide but the most recent ones were i6 =o

Looking at the epic moves and torn between blaze and body mastery.

focused accuracy and phys. perfect look great, conserve power too, and laser eyes always make me drool.

But then there's melt armor........we all know how fun that is.

has anyone went with blaze mastery on a claws scrapper before? seems kinda crazy, but cool at the same time.

I just rolled a Claw/Regen and did a little analysis of the builds which have been posted lately. Some are as old as i6, so there might be changes I don't know about.

I do this because I'm ignorant of this stuff, so dont' think I'm an authority.

Screencap of main sheet, click thumbnail for full size.

Note: I just noticed that Umbral's data is totally screwed as to what level he took stuff at, unless he got in line for picking at level two around 10 times. Don't know how I messed that up.



And here is what I gleaned off it, plus some things that I have a bias toward.

Any critique would be gladly accepted, as long as you don't call me a moron.

01 => Fast Healing
01 => Strike
02 => Slash
04 => Reconstruction
06 => Quick Recovery
08 => Hasten
10 => Dull Pain
12 => Combat Jumping
14 => Super Jump
16 => Integration
18 => Focus
20 => Follow Up
22 => Swift
24 => Health
26 => Stamina
28 => Instant Healing
30 => Eviscerate
32 => Shockwave
35 => Resilience
38 => Moment of Glory
41 => Focused Accuracy

HAHA, my literature instructor would be appalled.

Linguistics or not, I still let my slang get the best of me.

First, thanks Umbral for taking the time to help me with this.

Here's a build I threw together quickly based on what you said and also my biting the bullet and getting SS rather than another travel power so I save a power early on.

I indicate what pool I'm buying into next to the first choice only.

1 Strike
1 Fast Healing
2 Slash
4 Quick Recovery
6 Reconstruction
8 Hurdle -- Health Pool
10 Dull Pain
12 Hasten -- Speed Pool
14 Super Speed
16 Integration
18 Focus
20 Health
22 Boxing -- Fighting Pool
24 Tough
26 Eviscerate
28 Instant Healing
30 Stamina
32 Shockwave
35 Weave
38 Moment of Glory
41 Focused Acc -- Body Mastery Pool
44 Physical Perfection
47 Recall Friend -- Teleport Pool
49 Teleport

The last two are just personal choices. I never had tp before my warshade and I find it a perfectly reasonable travel power. Though flight in nova form is what I use after my endurance is wiped out.

Oh, and is LotG's benefits only active if Weave is toggled on?