Jacob's Ladder vs. Havoc Punch on SD/Elec


Heraclea

 

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So is there any big reason to take Jacob's Ladder if you don't need the AoE portion? I currently have it but the AoE is often wasted and HP does better dps. Is there something I'm missing. I will drop to 48% aoe defense but gain 2 points of melee (to 53.2%), 2.5% damage and 1.5% hp. (Multi-Strike to Touch of Death)

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Tai


 

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Originally Posted by Taiyetos View Post
So is there any big reason to take Jacob's Ladder if you don't need the AoE portion? I currently have it but the AoE is often wasted and HP does better dps. Is there something I'm missing. I will drop to 48% aoe defense but gain 2 points of melee (to 53.2%), 2.5% damage and 1.5% hp. (Multi-Strike to Touch of Death)
I took it, but am considering respeccing out of it and into Havoc Punch. I usually only take two of the three beginning attacks on any tanker set, and since Charged Brawl is forced, I took Jacob's Ladder. It seems to me to be even harder to get mobs into the AoE than with Shadow Maul, which is hard enough. It is slower than Havoc Punch.

My scrapper skipped Havoc Punch and feels no need to have it. It isn't like you are going to be hurting for AoE without this.



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Originally Posted by Heraclea View Post
It seems to me to be even harder to get mobs into the AoE than with Shadow Maul, which is hard enough.
This is a perception issue. Jacob's Ladder has a wider cone than Shadow Maul (7ft 50 deg vs 7ft 45 deg).

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It is slower than Havoc Punch.
Yep, Jacob's Ladder has a slower rech than Havoc Punch, slower animation (1.67s vs 1.5s). However, JL still has a higher DPA (and end cost) than HP.

Code:
		Jacob	Havoc
Rech	8s		6s
Anim	1.67	1.5
(ArcT)	1.848	1.716
End		8.53	6.86
Dmg	66.7	58.7
DPA	~36.1	~34.2
If you're going for a build with enough recharge / end management (the latter which is practically a given as Elec Armor), then JL is the better choice. (I believe one of the Elec Melee chains was CI - CB - JL - CB, but I haven't checked out the math behind it, myself.)