Pie in the sky wish ...

I have a toon that's level 8 that I can't bear to delete because I've had him since 04, but I can't bear to level either because it's a combo that I already played to 50 and didn't really like that much the first time.

I really wish that we could have one powerset swap on a toon. I wouldn't even object if it was a one time thing, restricted to a fairly low level ... say 10 or so ...

I know full well the Devs don't want to allow powerset respecs, and I understand why, but it'd be nice if it was permisable at the lower levels ...

I hear ya there. I have 2 toons that got the jubliant badge from the latest anniversary, so I'm determined to level them up cause I don't wanna lose the badge lol.

Thinking about it at lower levels...

I know theres been times I've had to to re-roll for really silly reasons like (back in the day this was) I got the hieght wrong, screwed up a power selection and didn't want to bother with a respec, or plain just wanted to channge things around.

But I get the logic of the no full respec thing, and I dont see an exception happening. -shrug-

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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I'd go for the powerset change idea, even if we had to pay for it. I once rerolled the same Hero three times because I didn't like the powersets I chose.

Y'know what? I feel your pain!

I DESPISE playing Tankers... They take forever to level and practically require a team if you don't want to spend an hour on a single mission... At least on the lower levels.

A nice DB/WP Tanker that I thought fit a nice concept. As I grew to about level 20, they released Dark Armor/Dark Melee for Tanks. Dark Armor fit the concept SO much better! What did I do?

I deleted him. I made a new one.

Get over it, guys. If you can't bear to go through the incredible 20 levels all over again, then you have simply chosen a poor powerset combination for your playstyle. And if you're worried about your character having existed for a long time? Well, that's just too bad. Either keep the character, or delete him and start again.

Sure, if NCSoft is going to charge 49.99 for it.

My question is, why is it so hard to just delete and remake him?

If it's because of badges I personally say I fully support the anniversary badges being made account wide rather than by the character. All other holiday badges you can just get as the holidays come back around.

If it's because you're afraid to lose the name that you have, I would also fully support a 24 hour protection for a name. Basically if you delete a character you can still remake it with that name for a full 24 hours before it goes on the open market for anyone to use. (assuming this feature doesn't already exist)

If its because of a costume we can already save costumes at the tailor so thats no problem.

and lastly if its because of level.. I'm sorry but that one you and everyone will just have to deal with and reroll. You can always just buy and use a rename token (we could use a 24 hour protection on renamed characters too) and change the concept of the character you already have then remake the toon you want with the powers you want.

Honestly, with as much as this topic comes up(Hell people thought that multiple builds meant a full respec for AT/Power sets) that no one has even thought to make this suggestion(Which I doubt would ever happen)

Put into the game a mission arc, simular to the respec trials. Make it long(10 missions or longer) and difficult, so it's not likely people will try to solo it. Upon completion you get to choose between merits, or a 3/4ths repec(One time reward only. I call it 3/4ths, because you can change the power sets, but not the AT. So if you started as a Blaster, you stay a blaster). The catch? You loose half your levels.

Some people might not go for this idea, and understandable. I'm not sure if it would even be possible with this system. But think about it like this. The devs have said one of the main reasons that a full respec hasn't been added into the game is because someone could make a character that levels quickly, then switch to one that levels more slowly. Or that they would reach the hier levels switch their powers, and not have a clue how they work because they haven't played those powers.

By keeping it the same AT, you can't start off with a katana/regen scrapper, and switch to a fire/kin controller.

By cutting your level in half(If you're level 50, you drop down to 25. If you're 30, 15) then you get the chance to level up with those new powers before you get to the higher levels and people depend on you to know what you're doing. You still have the basic idea, because if you started off a tank, you got to level 50 as a tank, you still know how to tank. Also, the higher you leveled the character the more you loose. We all know it's easier to get from level 1 to 10, than it is from 40 to 50.

Foreseeable problems/arguments with this idea...

1: What about unlocked content? Like access to Cimerora, earned badges, Enhancements you had one the toon and costume slots!

By taking this type of respec, you go in understanding you would loose access to Cimerora, and Ouro. Badges(Like the ones you recieve upon training up to 10, 20, 30, 40, 50) you keep, but can't ever select them to be a badge title until regaining the required level. Enhancements, get sold off automatically. Same as if during a current style of respec, you chose not to put the same enhancements you had before into your new build they get sold off as if selling them at a store, same thing happens here, but without the chose. Costume slots get locked out again, but upon reaching the required level to get the mission that unlocks a costume slot, you don't have to run the mission again. It's a price you pay for this type of respec.

2: The system isn't capable of deleveling.

I don't know this to be a fact, could be it can since we can exemp down levels, but I'm not sure it would work for this situation. But one possible work around is when you activate the 3/4ths respec, the system essentially deletes the character, and recreates it with the same costume, but lets you re-choose the primary, and secondary power sets, and the color scheme for the new sets. It then takes you into the standard respec table to select your new powers and enhancement slots.

3: It's not really needed.

In the end, it's just not necessary. Delete and reroll, right? But like the OP said, this toon has sentimental value, or it has all the anniversary badges, and you don't want too loose that.

4: But then we have people at those half levels who don't know how to use their new powers. Going from a 50 stone tankers to a 25 shield tanker is vastly different power wise.

True, but we still have PLing going on, and when we find these people that don't know how to use their powers effectively now, we'll do the same thing to them then. For the people who actually want to play the game the right way, and learn to use their new sets, they would do the responsible thing and solo for while until they got the hang of it, or even, let a team their joining know they just switched their power sets. So maybe they shouldn't be the main tank, or healer, or whatever.

Either way this was just a thought, and I'm not actually saying this should be put into the game, just the only plausible way that I can see, for this type or respec to ever be put into the game should the devs ever decide to.

Like others have said, just remake the character.

It's not that hard to relevel a low level character. I've done this several times. Heck I've even deleted low level characters because I'm not happy with their costume and don't feel like walking to a tailor.

I've remade plenty of toons over the past 5 years. If I really like a look, and not sure if I'd remember every detail on a redo, I take the toon to costume shop, go through every click and wirte them down. Most pieces have two bubbles to fill with color, so I use a simple column/row set for colors on all the parts. For example, (7,2)(6,5), means I look at color chart, count over to the 7th Column, then go down to Row 2, and that is Bright Red for my first color. Over to 6th Column, and down to Row 5 for my second color which is Bright Yellow. Then I click the sliders, and draw similar slider charts for the face and body details (if I had adjusted them originally).