Team list bug and then some
By
FitzSimmons,
Posted on: 2009-10-16 20:37 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
I have seen the alternate faction zone after relogging as well. In fact, I mentioned it just now in the other thread regarding the team list bug:
A few new glitches
However, I didn't realize it could kick people off the team for being in a different faction. That's a bit too far! lol
It might have happened when I went to obo before hitting Nerva. This makes a little more sense since you can reproduce this behavior by joining a mixed team in RWZ or Cim then hitting Obo.
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Yeah, but technically, it should have happened when going to ANY zone, not just Ouroboros, cause Grandville and Nerva are not Co-Op zones either.|
Originally Posted by FitzSimmons
It might have happened when I went to obo before hitting Nerva. This makes a little more sense since you can reproduce this behavior by joining a mixed team in RWZ or Cim then hitting Obo.
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Maybe it had more to do with the mission being set when some people were not in the same zone, than it did with Ouro specifically.
In any case, it shouldn't have happened since the team as not mixed anyway. I guess we got Going Rogue early. haha
Yeah we also hit our Obo from inside a mission. Not enough time for the next mission to be set but I don't know for sure.
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Well if the next mission wasn't set yet.. how did you all know to start going to Nerva? Unless it was a specific arc you knew.. in which case.. that might be why you didn't notice the team drop until you got to Nerva.. cause the mission wasn't set yet until the Leader had time to call it in.. t which point you were already heading into Nerva, and not in the same zone as the leader when the mission was set.
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Originally Posted by FitzSimmons
Yeah we also hit our Obo from inside a mission. Not enough time for the next mission to be set but I don't know for sure.
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It's the RSF, we speed run it all the time. At the end of the 3rd mish we all use Obos to head to Nerva. That's when it dropped us.
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Then there you go... you were probably already into Nerva by the time the mission was set, so thats why you didn't notice the team drop until then..|
Originally Posted by FitzSimmons
It's the RSF, we speed run it all the time. At the end of the 3rd mish we all use Obos to head to Nerva. That's when it dropped us.
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and OUCH! Having it happen on a SF is even worse!
Eh I may not have noticed it before I got to Nerva because I wasn't paying attention it could have very well happened in Obo. I have confirmation from one other that it did happen in Obo for him.
Anyway, nasty bug and I hpoe it goes away soon. I've PM'd Kim with this.
EDIT: I also have confirmation from the leader that he did not set the next mission before this happened.
And I just confirmed the same text happens if you're on a mixed team in a shared zone and you go to Obo:
You have quit your team
You were dropped from your team of Heroes and Villains because this zone does not allow mixed teams.
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I'm not saying the text wouldn't be the same. I'm just saying it's not directly related to Ouro. You'd get that same text if you zoned from a mixed team in Pocket D back into Kings Row or to your SG base or something too. You could have taken the ferry to Nerva instead of taking Ouro and probably had the same results and same text.|
Originally Posted by FitzSimmons
And I just confirmed the same text happens if you're on a mixed team in a shared zone and you go to Obo:
You have quit your team You were dropped from your team of Heroes and Villains because this zone does not allow mixed teams. |
The reason the other people weren't kicked from the team is cause they probably didn't have time to leave the zone the Leader was in yet, before or during when the time the next mission was being set.
I have confirmation that one of the ones kicked was in Obo next to one of the ones still on the team. Standing right next to one another.
I think it is related to Ouro and happens similiar to a legitimate occurrence.
- player 1 uses obo on villainside
- player 2 uses obo on heroside
- player 2 switches to villainside
- player 2 joines player 1 on a team without using obo
- player 2 uses obo and gets the message above.
This is simplifying it but it may be that it read the obo I was in as a hero instance.
It's too late to try and reproduce it, if I feel like it I'll take another look at it tomorrow. However I think I'm going to avoid several task forces until this is fixed.
It's a tad bit annoying.
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The people standing next to each other were not necessarily flagged as being in the same zone on the Leader's client. Obviously, one of them was being flagged incorrectly as a Hero, and was kicked from the team, while the other person was still a Villain and remained on the team. |
Originally Posted by FitzSimmons
I have confirmation that one of the ones kicked was in Obo next to one of the ones still on the team. Standing right next to one another.
I think it is related to Ouro and happens similiar to a legitimate occurrence. - player 1 uses obo on villainside - player 2 uses obo on heroside - player 2 switches to villainside - player 2 joines player 1 on a team without using obo - player 2 uses obo and gets the message above. This is simplifying it but it may be that it read the obo I was in as a hero instance. It's too late to try and reproduce it, if I feel like it I'll take another look at it tomorrow. However I think I'm going to avoid several task forces until this is fixed. It's a tad bit annoying. |
Like I said.. same thing could have happened if you went to your SG base too. It's just a matter of chance as far as each person being flagged as the incorrect faction. It has nothing to do with Ouro.. but the fact that you were not in the same zone as the leader, and happened to be unfortunate enough to be flagged as the opposing faction as the leader at the time.
The key here is that until this is fixed, everybody should all zone into the same area before setting the next mission, to ensure all clients (especialy the Leader's) are synched with the correct status of each toon, so nobody will be ejected from any teams accidentally due to being flagged with incorrect data.
On a side note, I believe this team window bug is the same type of reason why mission difficulty is reset to default when you enter a mission with the leader in a different zone. The character entering the mission starts the instance, but the leader's settings and info are not loaded at the time, reverting it to default.
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If it helps at all, I was the last one to leave the mission and as soon as you guys were clicking the Ouroboros portal you "quit" the team, so it wasn't before you zoned elsewhere, it was before/ while zoning into Ouroboros.
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Originally Posted by FitzSimmons
It might have happened when I went to obo before hitting Nerva. This makes a little more sense since you can reproduce this behavior by joining a mixed team in RWZ or Cim then hitting Obo.
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Ouroboros = "elsewhere".
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Originally Posted by Psychic_Bedlam
If it helps at all, I was the last one to leave the mission and as soon as you guys were clicking the Ouroboros portal you "quit" the team, so it wasn't before you zoned elsewhere, it was before/ while zoning into Ouroboros.
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Whoops, I can't read very well. I thought he was saying it happened while zoning to Nerva, so I was telling him it was while going to Ouroboros, my bad.
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
Ouroboros = "elsewhere".
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Sorry. It seems that I then also misread what you said. You meant that the affected member had left the team at the Ouroboros stage, before they had a chance to go "elsewhere". I thought you were saying that going "elsewhere" wasn't the cause, but going to Ouroboros. |
Originally Posted by Psychic_Bedlam
Whoops, I can't read very well. I thought he was saying it happened while zoning to Nerva, so I was telling him it was while going to Ouroboros, my bad.
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They may sound the same, but can be interpreted differently. lol
This may be tough to explain, I don't have a screenshot to support this.
I was on a Statesman, switched toons then ran a Numina. During both of those the team list blank bug, reporting people in zones that they weren't in was apparent but never really caused any problems.
Here's the kicker, I then switched to a villain to run an RSF. It showed the team leader (no name, blank black bar) as being in Eden. Eden? The last zone I was in before I switched from a hero to a villain. The leader was actually in Grandville.
Now it doesn't end there. We ran the missions in Grandville and then took the Obo portal to Nerva while the team lead grabbed the mission. Upon entering Nerva from Obo several of us were dropped from the team. Not all of us, just several.
The text is as follows:
Agrajag has quit the team
You have quit your team
You were dropped from your team of Heroes and Villains because this zone does not allow mixed teams.
So we went from an annoying team list bug to this. I think that's a pretty severe escalation.
fyi and fya
Regards,
Fitz