/kin/psy or /kin/earth or /kin/fire for farming
By
Frosticus,
Posted on: 2009-08-18 21:20 in Controllers
Like I said on another post on the controller section... I've been farming with fire/kins since i7/i8 and had my first lvl 50 fire/kin at i5.. I have 3 50 fire/kins to date.. 1 on each account... I've tried pretty much everything (even ice) and while earth provides you defense... plus +HP if you take earths embrace, the DMG output is pretty poor compared to fre, and the animation on psy tornado is just ****. Fire, if you are slotted with alot of recharge sets works like a charm. So if you ask me, all though for some reason the FoTM epic for fire/kins atm seems to be earth, i'd go in the long run for fire. 
Hope it helps, you can contact me @soultouch on the freedom server for further advise/help regarding builds
@Psycho Jas
I agree with Soul, Earth is currently overrated. But I don't agree with the analogy on Psi while the animation time is pretty long with Psionic tornado, it can still be effective.
Fire is your best bet though...
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If you farm easy stuff then fire app provides the most damage and speed. If you are farming harder stuff like all boss maps of +1 (or even +2's) then you will need to be def capped so earth or ice. Howerver, ice pairs better with plant than fire's pbaoe style so earth.|
Originally Posted by QuantumTrance
i have a fire/kin/fire but not sure if i should move to fire/kin/earth mastery to farm with...
which one is more effective, i farm BM and Demons... |
You mention BM and deamons I'd go fire then and just carry a few bf's on the BM map.
Earth isn't overrated at all, it is the easiest set to soft cap with and has a vicuous st melee attack that one shot holds bosses and caps your hp. Fissure isn't spectacular, but it cycles really fast so does well with procs and does enough damage. Especially the FF +rech proc, which on my plant/kin seems to be giving me over 25%+rech over time.
Alright, then Earth isn't overrated. But I've seen Fire/Kins taking Fly lately for the AE, so pardon me if I don't take current F/K builds too seriously.
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ya i've seen some f/k/f with fly too, haven't seen a f/k/earth with it yet though considering fissure wouldn't even work for them in the air.|
Originally Posted by InsanityPeak
Alright, then Earth isn't overrated. But I've seen Fire/Kins taking Fly lately for the AE, so pardon me if I don't take current F/K builds too seriously.
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I've seen in on the /fire app kins because they can't survive and they try to hover about 10-15 feet above the group out of range of their melee attacks, but still in range for tran's, FS, hotfeet... they still end up spamming the hell out of transfusion to stay alive though.
Fissure (with two dam procs and FF rech proc, 2 stun purples and 1 acc/rech stupefy) does ~250 damage and cycles every ~7.5 seconds (includes animation), while also stacking nicely with flashfire and having the FF proc boost the recharge on everything else.
Fireball (with 5 pieces of posi, 1 acc/rech ragnorok) is not only considerably more expensive than slotting out fissure it does ~277 damage and cycles every 10.6 seconds.
So not only does Fissure do considerably more for the build it also does more damage over time due to a much faster cycle time thanks to have a 20 sec base rech vs 32.
So unless you are fighting mobs that die from 1 (maybe 2) cycles of fireball, earth app tends to pull ahead, while also being about 18 times safer (no joke) and that isn't even with factoring the stacking stun of fissure lol.
Of course if you are farming easy stuff as mentioned earlier than you probably don't need the extra survivability and you can probably get by with 1 or 2 applications of fireball and move faster through the map.
Oh I don't Dispute that in the least, while my fire and psi epic kins can both do 52 Bosses, no higher levels though, it is slow at times.
Even on 8 man BM stone proved to be faster due to Seismic Smash.
But hey, it's a game why do it the hard way if the easy way works just as well (:
I was just trying to give an opinion from personal experience
i have a fire/kin/fire but not sure if i should move to fire/kin/earth mastery to farm with...
which one is more effective, i farm BM and Demons...