Defiance needs to hit?


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In the Beta section there is a discussion of Rad Blasters in which it is asserted that Defiance needs to hit to give you the damage buff.

Is that true?

My only extensive Blaster experience is with a /Devices Blaster. He can get a Defiance boost by dropping a Trip Mine even if it never goes off...so I just assumed that usng a power grants you the buff.

If you do need to hit, why do some of the /Devices powers buff you even without a hit check? It seems weird that there would be separate code just for those powers.

Please enlighten me!


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Afaik, Defiance is activated as soon as you use the power. For example: You would get the Defiance buff from Ice Patch right after using the power, even though it might not do anything. This makes opening with some powers such as Bitter Freeze Ray not that bad of an idea when soloing, since they offer a high Defiance buff.


 

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Hmmm... interesting. Testing seems to indicate you do indeed need to hit.


 

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Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
In the Beta section there is a discussion of Rad Blasters in which it is asserted that Defiance needs to hit to give you the damage buff.

Is that true?

My only extensive Blaster experience is with a /Devices Blaster. He can get a Defiance boost by dropping a Trip Mine even if it never goes off...so I just assumed that usng a power grants you the buff.

If you do need to hit, why do some of the /Devices powers buff you even without a hit check? It seems weird that there would be separate code just for those powers.

Please enlighten me!
The power needs to succeed in order to grant the buff. Web Grenade will not grant the buff unless you hit the target, Trip Mine will not grant the buff if you are interrupted (IIRC, will have to double check), but laying the mine is the success of the power, so you get the buff at that point.

Edit: Confirmed that interrupting Trip Mines and Gun Drone means no bonus. Also, when Web Grenade misses, no bonus.


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Originally Posted by StratoNexus View Post
The power needs to succeed in order to grant the buff. Web Grenade will not grant the buff unless you hit the target, Trip Mine will not grant the buff if you are interrupted (IIRC, will have to double check), but laying the mine is the success of the power, so you get the buff at that point.
That does make more sense; I guess I just never noticed because i always slot plenty of accuracy into my Blasters.


 

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Defiance definitely needs attacks to hit, I often take my Blaster up against AVs solo and I notice a decrease in damage whenever I miss. It's not much of a decrease, but when you're watching the damage figures to make sure you're putting out enough firepower you notice when it changes.