Whoa, complete overkill on the S/L defense; with EA in your pocket, I think anything above 45 or 50% is just pointless. In addition, using Mocking Beratement--a great choice for Taunt--is IMO a terrible choice for attacks since they won't have sufficient accuracy, endurance reduction or damage. I'd recommend Smashing Haymaker instead, plus a slot from another set for additional damage and accuracy. (That goes for the KC sets, too.) 3 or 4 slots of Eradication is a better choice than your current slotting for FSC and Icicles, since it'll get your E/NE def closer to the cap.
Taking Glacial Armor at 49(!) and single-slotting it is also a bad idea; definitely take it before 30. I'm also not a huge fan of Titanium Coating for resistance powers, it takes too many slots for too little return. Try 4 slots of Reactive Armor instead, and use the extra slots for Glacial Armor and to slot your attacks decently.
Hoarfrost should *not* be slotted for resistance, you want Recharge and Healing instead. Be sure to put a Steadfast +def in Hoarfrost, Tough or Permafrost--though keep in mind that most Ice tanks don't even take PF. I think Hibernate would be a much better choice.
Without re-doing your build I'm not sure how close using Smashing Haymaker and Reactive Armor will put you toward the S/L soft cap; as I mentioned before, if it's much above 45% I'd use sets with other bonuses--regen, damage and recharge are always nice to have.
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Ouch, yeah. I knew theres was something wonky about trying to cap S/L, but I didn't know how bad I'd messed it up. When my friend gave me advice, it was completely different from what I had before. And lol at GA, I know I know. Haven't done a respec (been able to find a team for one) so its been sitting that way. :P|
Originally Posted by Finduilas
Whoa, complete overkill on the S/L defense; with EA in your pocket, I think anything above 45 or 50% is just pointless. In addition, using Mocking Beratement--a great choice for Taunt--is IMO a terrible choice for attacks since they won't have sufficient accuracy, endurance reduction or damage. I'd recommend Smashing Haymaker instead, plus a slot from another set for additional damage and accuracy. (That goes for the KC sets, too.) 3 or 4 slots of Eradication is a better choice than your current slotting for FSC and Icicles, since it'll get your E/NE def closer to the cap.
Taking Glacial Armor at 49(!) and single-slotting it is also a bad idea; definitely take it before 30. I'm also not a huge fan of Titanium Coating for resistance powers, it takes too many slots for too little return. Try 4 slots of Reactive Armor instead, and use the extra slots for Glacial Armor and to slot your attacks decently. Hoarfrost should *not* be slotted for resistance, you want Recharge and Healing instead. Be sure to put a Steadfast +def in Hoarfrost, Tough or Permafrost--though keep in mind that most Ice tanks don't even take PF. I think Hibernate would be a much better choice. Without re-doing your build I'm not sure how close using Smashing Haymaker and Reactive Armor will put you toward the S/L soft cap; as I mentioned before, if it's much above 45% I'd use sets with other bonuses--regen, damage and recharge are always nice to have. |
A ton of good info there, I really appreciate the advice. You have no idea how much it helps (or maybe you do by looking at the build).. I'll post my build when I'm done reworking it to see if it needs anything else. Also, when i16 hits, I'll be switching my secondary. Not sure to what but, possibly /SS or /Elec.
Edit: I'm not sure if this is enough regen or not, but Ive tweaked and reordered the build.
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Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hoarfrost
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- (3) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (3) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (5) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (5) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (11) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 40
- (13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (15) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 40
- (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Range/Slow: Level 30
- (7) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
- (15) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow: Level 30
- (17) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow: Level 30
- (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (19) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (21) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (21) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (23) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (23) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 40
- (25) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 30
- (25) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 40
- (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (29) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 40
- (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (31) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (31) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Range: Level 50
- (31) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge/Range: Level 50
- (33) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Perfect Zinger - Taunt: Level 50
- (A) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50
- (33) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown: Level 50
- (34) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (36) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (37) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (37) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (37) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 40
- (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (40) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 40
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (40) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (40) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (42) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (42) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
- (43) Reactive Armor - Endurance: Level 40
- (43) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (48) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (45) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 30
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (48) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- (50) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 11.8% Defense(Smashing)
- 11.8% Defense(Lethal)
- 3% Defense(Fire)
- 3% Defense(Cold)
- 13.6% Defense(Energy)
- 13.6% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 7.38% Defense(Melee)
- 8.31% Defense(Ranged)
- 3% Defense(AoE)
- 5.4% Max End
- 2.5% Enhancement(RunSpeed)
- 2.5% Enhancement(FlySpeed)
- 18% Enhancement(Heal)
- 2.5% Enhancement(JumpHeight)
- 52.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 60% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 2.5% Enhancement(JumpSpeed)
- 393.6 HP (21%) HitPoints
- MezResist(Immobilize) 6.6%
- MezResist(Sleep) 2.75%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.75%
- 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
- 86% (6.73 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 2.52% Resistance(Fire)
- 2.52% Resistance(Cold)
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Much, MUCH better! I think you'll see a big difference with your attacks fully slotted, and soft-capping your E/NE def will be a big help too. (By the way, the actual defense *cap* is over 200%, which is way too high for anybody to reach unless buffed out the wazoo. And since going over the soft-cap of 45% doesn't even get you anything except a cushion against def debuffs, most don't even try.)
A few tweaks:
I would change your Eradication slotting a little, currently it's low on damage and end reduction. Try using these Erad enhancements: Damage, Dam/Rchg, Acc/Dam/Rchg, and Acc/Dam/End/Rchg, with a Dam/End from another set. (A warning, though, the Erad quad is very hard to find and expensive, which is why I usually just go with 3 Erad for the E/NE bonus.)
The fifth slot in your armor toggles with the RF endurance IO is not needed. The only toggle that's really end intensive is Icicles, so if you want to slot extra end red, do it there. (Also there's really no point in using one single-type set IO; it doesn't do anything a common IO wouldn't.) I'd slot a Kismet +Acc in that spot in one of the shield toggles (or CJ) instead.
I don't know if SS at 49 is something you really want or a throwaway; personally, I'd get Build-Up or an epic attack instead.
Combat Jumping and Hibernate are over-slotted; I haven't gotten Hibernate yet on my Icer, but my understanding is that most Ice tanks now leave it single-slotted. Between those slots and the extra end red in your shields, you'll have some slots to play with--you could always try something fun like slotting procs in your attacks.
Lastly, since you've got more than enough S/L and E/NE def, it wouldn't hurt to try for some F/C def to help with fire damage. Consider slotting Aegis in Tough and 5-slotting Taunt with Mocking Beratement for another 6% F/C def. You'll never be able to soft-cap F/C def, but those two changes will get you up to 21% def, which should help a bit.
Good luck!
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You single slot hibernate because the phase shift debuff is as long as the base recharge, a basic heal IO will make it more than good.
I switched up the slotting a bit, you had too many LoTG recharges and were over the cap. I put in a bit more regen and recharge, which will help a lot.
This should do ya solid.
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Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hoarfrost -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(3), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(3), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Heal-I(5)
Level 1: Scorch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(11), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(17)
Level 2: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(11), LkGmblr-Def(13), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(13), RedFtn-EndRdx(15)
Level 4: Chilling Embrace -- ImpSwft-Dam%(A), TmpRdns-Acc/Slow(7), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(15)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(17), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(19)
Level 10: Combustion -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(19), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(21), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23)
Level 12: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(23), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(25), Numna-Heal(25), RgnTis-Regen+(43), Mrcl-Rcvry+(45)
Level 18: Glacial Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(27), LkGmblr-Def(27), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Ksmt-ToHit+(29)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(31), P'Shift-EndMod(31)
Level 22: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt/Rng(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(31), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(33), Zinger-Taunt(33)
Level 24: Breath of Fire -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(33), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(34), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 26: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 28: Fire Sword Circle -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-%Dam(36), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 30: Energy Absorption -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 32: Icicles -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(40), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(42)
Level 35: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 38: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(42), RctvArm-EndRdx(43), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(48)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 44: Greater Fire Sword -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(45), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Build Up -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(48), GSFC-ToHit(48), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(50), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(50), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Hibernate -- Heal-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 13% Defense(Smashing)
- 13% Defense(Lethal)
- 4.25% Defense(Fire)
- 4.25% Defense(Cold)
- 8.63% Defense(Energy)
- 8.63% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 9.88% Defense(Melee)
- 7.69% Defense(Ranged)
- 5.5% Defense(AoE)
- 1.8% Max End
- 45% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 12% Enhancement(Heal)
- 58.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 10% FlySpeed
- 323.3 HP (17.3%) HitPoints
- 10% JumpHeight
- 10% JumpSpeed
- MezResist(Immobilize) 6.6%
- MezResist(Stun) 4.4%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.75%
- 6.5% (0.11 End/sec) Recovery
- 90% (7.04 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 1.58% Resistance(Fire)
- 1.58% Resistance(Cold)
- 10% RunSpeed
Set Bonuses:
Numina's Convalescence
(Hoarfrost)
- 12% (0.94 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
- 6% Enhancement(Heal)
(Scorch)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
(Scorch)
- 8% (0.63 HP/sec) Regeneration
(Frozen Armor)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Chilling Embrace)
- 1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
(Combat Jumping)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Combustion)
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- 3% DamageBuff(All)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Health)
- 12% (0.94 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
- 6% Enhancement(Heal)
(Glacial Armor)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Stamina)
- 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
- 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
(Taunt)
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.75%
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Breath of Fire)
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Fire Sword Circle)
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- 3% DamageBuff(All)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Energy Absorption)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Icicles)
- 1.8% Max End
- 3.13% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.56% Defense(Ranged)
- 42.2 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
(Tough)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
- 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
(Tough)
- 3% Defense(All)
(Weave)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Greater Fire Sword)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
(Greater Fire Sword)
- 8% (0.63 HP/sec) Regeneration
(Build Up)
- 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
- 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.5% DamageBuff(All)
- 2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing), 2.5% Defense(Ranged), 1.25% Defense(Energy), 1.25% Defense(Negative), 2.5% Defense(AoE), 1.25% Defense(Fire), 1.25% Defense(Cold)
Dark Armor is like that kid you knew in school that didn't know when to shut up, and no matter how bad he got beaten down, he got right back up again and kept on talking.
You have stupendous ammount of defense going on, considering the softcap is only 45% and more than that is (usually) overkill (at 45% the enemies have 5% chance to hit, at 50% they still have 5% chance to hit, at 60% the same). A few % is ok just as a buffer versus defense debuffing attacks (anything that uses a sword of shoots bullets debuffs defense as a rule, rad blasts as well though very few enemies do those).
Which is to say your 53% defense to S/L and 55% to negative/energy is in the immortal words of Keanu, 'Whoa'.
Still, it's a matter of taste, if that's what you want because you've noticed your defense crumbles in front of Cimeroreans and you wish to patch that then that's quite fine too.
A few things to note, Hibernate now has a debuff attached, once used it cannot be used again for 120 seconds (which is how long Hibernate recharges on its own), so no need to slot it for that.
I personally think it's a bit of a waste for you not to have picked an epic pool, but again it's a matter of taste. I'll put different slotting/power picks and decide what fits best for you.
The myriad of LotG Recharge are only there because it's a 'best as I can' build, they can be ignored easily.
I also left FoB in since you've already slotted it with purples and it's the only set that will take them outside of epics.
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Originally Posted by Kanto2
I personally think it's a bit of a waste for you not to have picked an epic pool, but again it's a matter of taste. I'll put different slotting/power picks and decide what fits best for you.
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As for the build you posted, I went with the build he already had but adjusted it a bit, paring down the defense a bit. However, there are going to be times where you are not going to have a bunch of mobs to pull off of for EA, so being capped without it is not a bad idea. Plus, a lot of the overage just comes with going for other set bonuses.
On top of that, what I posted is cheaper, has no purple sets, is almost a match on def minus the f/c def, has 58% more regen, 83% more bonus damage a ton more bonus To Hit. I'm not saying the one I posted is perfect by any stretch, and yours is definitely decent, especially for alternative slotting, but some of your slotting choices just seemed odd to me. Specifically slotting the full Blessing of Zephyr sets in CJ and SJ, seemed almost superfluous.
Dark Armor is like that kid you knew in school that didn't know when to shut up, and no matter how bad he got beaten down, he got right back up again and kept on talking.
That came out wrong!!
I meant to say 'I'll put different slotting/power picks and *you* decide what fits best for you'. One missing word completly changes the meaning of the phrase -_-
I blame it on being late but it did came out all sorts of wrong, sorry.
Now, to the build. A single mob caught in EA will give defense softcap, more will be a buffer. The purple set belongs to him, I double checked his first post and he said that's what he had in the character at the time so it stayed, I would never give out a build with purples otherwise.
Ice has two holes, Fire and Psi. Can't do much about Psi, but Fire yes, ergo the Aegis slotted where I could, the full Performance set and the Zephyrs. 31% defense versus Fire isn't too shabby.
As for the rest it's mostly a question of taste, Regen on its own doesn't do enough IMO, it would take more stacking to make it truly noticable, the extra tohit is (most times) overkill (again IMO) and the extra damage... Damn, 83% more damage? I'm posting before going to work so I don't have the time to check the build, but my blaster who focused on set bonuses only had +30% damage, 83% seems a bit insane o_o
Anyway, what I meant to say in my previous post and the missing word made it look bad, it's more an idea for different slotting. When I throw a build at someone it's just that, they can get a few ideas and then put together what pleases them the most.
In a ideal world he manages to merge both builds and keep the Fire defense as well as your extra tohit/regen/damage ^^
Yes, it's a matter of taste, and it could also be a matter of cost. While the OP hasn't shied away from expensive choices so far, I think it's fair to warn him that those BotZ -KB recipes alone are currently running 50 million or so.
Personally, I don't think another 10% of fire defense is worth that kind of influence layout, but it's the OPs call.
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Truthfuly, I don't find 50 mill to be that much. I would more quickly slot that and get more defense than the LotGs for more recharge.
But when I see someone with a purple set in their build I don't really feel the person is poor/stranger to making cash to slot up.
I still feel it's best to lay the options down. If the person becomes aware there is a hole they can patch it's best than to not know the option exists. Once knowing there is a choice the person can decide on which path to follow.
Only the OP knows what use he gives to his tank and if he wants to round his defenses or fight +4, in either case he now has opinions on how to slot for both.
no worries on that, mate. I am sure I come off as an arrogant *** a lot, so to be honest I probably shouldn't have pointed it out anyway! :P
Yeah, I see the value in having the extra fire def, but I just never really had problems with it to where I am going to hunt for it over anything else.
I don't know if he actually has the purple sets, he may have just slotted them because they were the best available to the slot, and they had the bonuses he liked. I used to be VERY guilty of setting up builds like that. Now I try to leave purples out of them.
50 mil isn't THAT much, but it is a lot still. especially when the slots are only for the bonus. I cringed when I had to spend more than 20 mil on any of my IOs on my DA tank. Rounding out my Kinetic Combats has been painful. Thought I was going to have a stroke when I bought my numina's unique, thankfully I got lucky on the miracle one which was a drop.
And yeah, it definitely comes down to personal preference, I like hasten, attacking faster means they die faster, and that is the only mitigation you get with /Fire. Faster recharge is the only way to increase that mitigation. I do like to find some synergy between my sets now to build on mitigation strengths between both sets, but some combos are just neat, and I think Ice/Fire is one of em. Being Ice/ does help some, but I still think getting that recharge up and getting em dead faster is a priority.
Dark Armor is like that kid you knew in school that didn't know when to shut up, and no matter how bad he got beaten down, he got right back up again and kept on talking.
Well, Ive had this Tanker for as long as Ive played and I'm trying to get to the "best of the best" build, but since there isn't such a thing I'm wondering what other Ice/ Tanks out there have that I don't, because Ive got some major gaps going on. I can just feel it. Other than Glacial Armor that is, because I know it needs to be re-slotted. I'm just all over the place trying to figure it all out.
So heres my in game build currently, let me know what you think needs switching out/re-slotting/etc. I may have the wrong idea about what I need, not to mention the order of which the powers are placed are wacky (My in game build isn't like this, just the slotting) I need to be put back on track, I feel as if Ive completely ruined the build lol. Works great in S/L but once it comes down to the ranged blaster and de-buff types I get pwned:
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Crystal Impact - Final: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Armor
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (5) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
Level 1: Scorch- (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range: Level 35
- (5) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range: Level 35
- (7) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge: Level 35
- (7) Mocking Beratement - Taunt: Level 50
Level 2: Hoarfrost- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (9) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
- (9) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (11) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (11) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 50
- (13) Titanium Coating - Endurance: Level 50
Level 4: Chilling Embrace- (A) Impeded Swiftness - Accuracy/Slow: Level 30
- (13) Impeded Swiftness - Damage/Slow: Level 30
- (15) Impeded Swiftness - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 30
- (15) Impeded Swiftness - Range/Slow: Level 30
- (17) Impeded Swiftness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow: Level 30
- (17) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing): Level 30
Level 6: Hurdle- (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 8: Combat Jumping- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
Level 10: Combustion- (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt: Level 50
- (21) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge: Level 50
- (23) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range: Level 50
- (23) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range: Level 50
Level 12: Wet Ice- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 14: Super Jump- (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 16: Health- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
- (25) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- (25) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
Level 18: Taunt- (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt: Level 50
- (27) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge: Level 50
- (27) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range: Level 50
- (29) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range: Level 50
Level 20: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (29) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (31) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 22: Stamina- (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (31) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (31) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
Level 24: Breath of Fire- (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt: Level 50
- (33) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range: Level 50
- (33) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range: Level 50
Level 26: Energy Absorption- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
Level 28: Fire Sword Circle- (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt: Level 50
- (36) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range: Level 50
- (36) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge: Level 50
- (36) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range: Level 50
Level 30: Boxing- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (50) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 32: Tough- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (37) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 50
- (39) Titanium Coating - Endurance: Level 50
Level 35: Weave- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
Level 38: Incinerate- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 41: Greater Fire Sword- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 44: Permafrost- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (45) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 50
- (46) Titanium Coating - Endurance: Level 50
Level 47: Icicles- (A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (48) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
Level 49: Glacial Armor- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
------------Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest- (A) Empty
Level 1: Gauntlet------------
Set Bonus Totals:
- 3% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 3% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 3% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 3% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 3% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 3% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 3% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 3% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 30.6% Defense(Smashing)
- 30.6% Defense(Lethal)
- 25.6% Defense(Melee)
- 9% Max End
- 45% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 3% Enhancement(FlySpeed)
- 42.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 3% Enhancement(RunSpeed)
- 3% Enhancement(JumpHeight)
- 3% Enhancement(JumpSpeed)
- 260 HP (13.9%) HitPoints
- MezResist(Held) 16%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 10.5%
- MezResist(Sleep) 6.6%
- MezResist(Stun) 11%
- 52% (4.07 HP/sec) Regeneration
------------Set Bonuses:
Luck of the Gambler
(Frozen Armor)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Mocking Beratement(Scorch)
- 1.8% Max End
- MezResist(Held) 2.75%
- 2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)
Titanium Coating(Hoarfrost)
- MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- MezResist(Held) 2.75%
- 2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing)
Impeded Swiftness(Chilling Embrace)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
- 3% Enhancement(Slow)
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- MezResist(Held) 2.2%
- 2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing)
Luck of the Gambler(Combat Jumping)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Mocking Beratement(Combustion)
- 1.8% Max End
- MezResist(Held) 2.75%
- 2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)
Numina's Convalescence(Health)
- 12% (0.94 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
Mocking Beratement(Taunt)
- 1.8% Max End
- MezResist(Held) 2.75%
- 2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)
Mocking Beratement(Breath of Fire)
- 1.8% Max End
- MezResist(Held) 2.75%
- 2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)
Luck of the Gambler(Energy Absorption)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Mocking Beratement(Fire Sword Circle)
- 1.8% Max End
- MezResist(Held) 2.75% (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)
- 2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)
Kinetic Combat(Boxing)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Titanium Coating(Tough)
- MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- MezResist(Held) 2.75% (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)
- 2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing)
Luck of the Gambler(Weave)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Kinetic Combat(Incinerate)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Kinetic Combat(Greater Fire Sword)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Titanium Coating(Permafrost)
- MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- MezResist(Held) 2.75% (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)
- 2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing)
Obliteration(Icicles)
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- 3% DamageBuff(All)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
Luck of the Gambler(Glacial Armor)