Tri-form Warshade Build Help Requested

Hello fellow Kheldians. For the past seven months I have been levelling my Tri-form Warshade on a static team. I dinged level 50 last night and am getting serious about putting together my final build. I see myself playing this toon a lot in the future for level 50 content and running TF's.

I like the idea of adding some Ranged Defense to my build but I am having trouble deciding how to get my ranged defense numbers closer to the soft cap without sacrificing Recharge or functionality. I am currently sitting slightly below 30% to Ranged Defense. Is this high enough that I will notice a significant decrease in incoming damage?

I am considering six slotting Numina's in Black Dwarf Drain to get some extra Ranged Defense (+3.75%) but I am worried about giving up Accuracy in my only heal. I am also considering six slotting Thunderstrikes in Dark Nova Blast to gain some more Ranged Defense (+3.75%) but that means giving up a purple set.

With the build as it stands I think I have pretty much reached the balance point between Ranged Defense, Recharge, and functionality. I would be very interested if you have any suggestions which would help me to improve my build.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Nikki Style Repec Defense: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Ebon Eye Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Absorption ResDam-I:50(A)
Level 2: Gravimetric Snare Acc-I:50(A)
Level 4: Gravity Shield S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:10(A), ResDam-I:50(5)
Level 6: Dark Nova P'Shift-End%:50(A)
Level 8: Hasten RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(9), RechRdx-I:50(9)
Level 10: Starless Step Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(A), Zephyr-ResKB:10(48)
Level 12: Sunless Mire RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(13)
Level 14: Super Speed Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 16: Shadow Cloak LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(46)
Level 18: Gravity Well Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(19), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(19), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:50(25), Mako-Dam%:50(46)
Level 20: Black Dwarf ResDam-I:50(A), ResDam-I:50(21), P'Shift-End%:50(21)
Level 22: Stygian Circle P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(23)
Level 24: Combat Jumping LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(A)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation Amaze-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun:50(27), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg:50(27), Amaze-Stun/Rchg:50(29), Amaze-ToHitDeb%:50(48)
Level 28: Inky Aspect HO:Endo(A)
Level 30: Hurdle Jump-I:50(A)
Level 32: Dark Extraction S'bndAl-Acc/Rchg:50(A), S'bndAl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg:50(34)
Level 35: Stygian Return RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 38: Eclipse P'Shift-Acc/Rchg:50(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(39), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(39), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg:50(39)
Level 41: Unchain Essence Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Posi-Dam%:20(43)
Level 44: Grant Invisibility LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(A)
Level 47: Nebulous Form EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 49: Stealth LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 10: Shadow Recall Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(48)
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Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt HO:Nucle(A), Dev'n-Hold%:50(43)
Level 6: Dark Nova Blast Apoc-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(5), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(13), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg:50(17), Apoc-Dam%:50(17), Empty(43)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(7), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg:50(11), Ragnrk-Knock%:50(15)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(7), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(11), Posi-Dam%:50(15)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(37), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:50(45), Mako-Dam%:50(46)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(29), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:50(40), Mako-Dam%:50(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire Armgdn-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(25), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(31), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg:50(31), Armgdn-Dam%:50(31)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain HO:Nucle(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(34), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(37), Dct'dW-Heal:50(40)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize Acc-I:50(A)

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Edited to add Mids data chunk

I see nothing wrong with your current build.

One thing to concider though is, with the amount of global recharge I am seeing as well as your slotting on Eclipse, you should have perma or near perma Eclipse.

With the amount of ressist provided by even 3-5 mobs using eclipse the need for defence based builds is dramaticly reduced. For simplicity purposes remember 30% def is roughly equivilent to(if memory serves) 60% ressist. Meaning that if your using Eclipse as often as it is up along with a 30% ranged def build your incoming damage will be almost non-existant.

The way I would weight my build if doing it this way is to make sure you get to the point where you have perma-eclispe, then add defence to any other powers.

Perma-eclipse is such a great thing to have which means with 3-5 mobs around you will only receive 15% incoming damage, any defence you get will reduce that even further (25% defence would half that 15% to 7.5%) but isn't going to be able to make up for not having eclipse made perma.

Having just seen those numbers I would probably be over the moon with 25% ranged Def as long as I still had perma-hasten. I would say your 30% is plenty.

On the other side of that, if you aren't going to go for perma-eclipse anything under 40% is probably not going to be enough to cover you through the down times.

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

Darkstar is pretty much dead on (It's so weird to find myself agreeing with anyone...).

I dont feel Eclipse "needs" to be perma, but I admit I like it to be pretty darn close (I think I have somewhere between 6 and 12 seconds of downtime on it.) but I do keep my Stygian Circle slotted well for both recharge and endurance mod, so the every 6 seconds Stygian covers me in the downtime since I make sure to have alot of damage (30% global damage) to make corpses with.

If I were to do mine over again I might try 2 Efficacy Adapters. Acc/Recharge and Acc/End Mod/Recharge(?) with 3 from Impervium Armor. Recharge/Ressist, Recharge/Ressist/End Reduction and Ressist

Thanks for the advice. Sounds like I am on the right track. I have jiggled around a couple of things to get a bit more defense (Thunderstrike set) and stay close to the same recharge levels (LoTG in Invisibility). I notice with the high levels of recharge I probably won't use Dark Nova Bolt so I moved the 2nd slot down to Dark Nova Detonation (Posi Proc) to give it a litte more punch.

My Eclipse is perma (four second overlap, at least while Hasten is up) so the high resists plus the defense should make this a very survivable build.

It will take me a while to collect all the bits and pieces so I would appreciate your input if you spot any improvements or obvious errors in the build.

Updated build below:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Nikki Style Repec Defense: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Ebon Eye Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Absorption ResDam-I:50(A)
Level 2: Gravimetric Snare Acc-I:50(A)
Level 4: Gravity Shield S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:10(A), ResDam-I:50(5)
Level 6: Dark Nova P'Shift-End%:50(A)
Level 8: Hasten RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(9), RechRdx-I:50(9)
Level 10: Starless Step Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(A), Zephyr-ResKB:10(48)
Level 12: Sunless Mire RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(13)
Level 14: Super Speed Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 16: Shadow Cloak LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(46)
Level 18: Gravity Well Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(19), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(19), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:50(25), Mako-Dam%:50(46)
Level 20: Black Dwarf ResDam-I:50(A), ResDam-I:50(21), P'Shift-End%:50(21)
Level 22: Stygian Circle P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(23)
Level 24: Combat Jumping LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(A)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation Amaze-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun:50(27), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg:50(27), Amaze-Stun/Rchg:50(29), Amaze-ToHitDeb%:50(48)
Level 28: Inky Aspect HO:Endo(A)
Level 30: Hurdle Jump-I:50(A)
Level 32: Dark Extraction S'bndAl-Acc/Rchg:50(A), S'bndAl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg:50(34)
Level 35: Stygian Return RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 38: Eclipse P'Shift-Acc/Rchg:50(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(39), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(39), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg:50(39)
Level 41: Unchain Essence Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Posi-Dam%:20(43)
Level 44: Grant Invisibility LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(A)
Level 47: Invisibility LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(A)
Level 49: Stealth LkGmblr-Rchg+:25(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 10: Shadow Recall Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(48)
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Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt HO:Nucle(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Blast Thundr-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx:50(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(13), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(17), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(17), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg:50(43)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation Posi-Acc/Dmg:25(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:25(3), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:25(7), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:25(11), Posi-Dam%:25(15)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(7), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg:50(11), Ragnrk-Knock%:50(15), Posi-Dam%:25(46)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(37), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:30(43), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:30(45), Mako-Dam%:50(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(29), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:50(40), Mako-Dam%:50(45)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire Armgdn-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(25), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(31), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg:50(31), Armgdn-Dam%:50(31)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain HO:Nucle(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(34), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(37), Dct'dW-Heal:50(40)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step Zephyr-Travel:50(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize Acc-I:50(A)



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HAH! I finaly found something to dissagree with! (ok it's minor but still)

Between accuracy slotting and global accuracy I try to maintain a 90% total on the outside chance you also like to set your difficulty slider way up (as all good WS's should :P). So I do not believe 70% to be overkill.

Otherwise *deep sigh* Darkstar is correct again. (dammit!)

Oh as a side note at some point I would like Darkstar's views on my build (posted in some other part of the kheld section) as I am curious what another similarly minded, skilled, number focused WS builder would do differently.

I will dig your build out when I get chance Obsidian. Most likely tomorrow now, since too many people are hovering about me (Like most good forum goers I am of course at work lol) and I daren't open up mids anymore today.

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

Excellent. *twiddles tentacles menacingly* I await your insight.

There are a couple things I have been contemplating changing but for the most part the build allows me to Tank AV's without support and blast nearly as well as our top IO'ed Blasters but I am curious what changes you would make.

I found your build in this thread: The Million Dollar Warshade but I get an error downloading the file, can you possibly paste the data chunk?

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

Done and done. The power order isn't correct nor the level of the enhancers used but the build should be exact otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

Hmmm I had export datachunk checked...lemme see.

Ok, try that.

That works, I will have a look!

Edit: It is actually very different from my build, so I will prepare a proper critique (If thats the right word) and should be able to post that tomorrow, I am off home now so wont get the chance today.

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

Right then Obsidian, here goes with my thoughts on your build:

The first thing I would say is that your Nova attacks are very similarly slotted to mine, but the rest of your build is quite different.

The main thing is that I went more towards pool powers for those that were only going to get one slot, whereas you went for the core powers, but as they are only 1 slot powers they don't make too much of a difference. But I am one of those that loves the medicine pool because I use the rez A LOT

If I were to do that on your build I would probably lose Gravity Shield, Twilight Shield and Nebulous Form, but putting the 3% def IO in Twilight shield is a worthwhile use of that power at least. As for the Aegis: Psi/Status I am not too sure how good it is, I had it once over but specced it out and haven't noticed the slightest difference.

I also see what you mean when in the thread about the Gaussian proc that you have slotted for damage, 30% global isn't bad! And it means that in Nova form you are causing slightly more damage than me, even though I have an additional proc in Emination. I also have a 6th slot with a standard recharge IO in Detonation, and would recommend that for you too if you have a spare slot, get that big damage out again faster.

The place I think may need some work is Black Dwarf Mire, I used to have mine 3 slotted until the last change, now it has 6 and is worth every single one of them.

I would also swap that Hecatomb set out of Gravity Well and into one of the Black Dwarf Attacks (Depending on how much you use dwarf of course), so that it gets more use (I hardly ever use Gravity Well so slotted it with a hold set, which doesn't make the most of the power, but gave nice recharge). Oh and I would swap the Hecatomb: Damage for the Hecatomb: Dam/End, I always drop the single aspect IO from the purple sets as they seem to be overkill.

With those changes to Black Dwarf it becomes quite endurance heavy though, so I stuck a Performance Shifter: Chance for +End into Black Dwarf, that seemed to do the trick.

Other things I have done differently is that I have more +res in Eclipse, I would be tempted to change your slotting on that to make it easier to cap, but then again if you hit enough targets all the time your slotting does give another damage bonus.

Your Dark Extraction is also slotted differently to mine, your numbers are actually better than mine, but I used 4 of the Expedient Reinforcements to get the recharge bonus. Though even with yours I would swap out what I think was the Soulbound Allegience: Damage for the Expedient Reinforcement: Acc/Dam, that gives you even better numbers on the pets, you lose some hold resist and gain some status resistance, which might even be better depending exactly what it means.

If you spend a lot of time in Nova (Like I used to, but I use Dwarf a lot more now) then this is actually a very good build because it does cause a great deal of damage.

I will PM you my build if you want because I am loathe to post it up just yet. You can see for yourself what I have done (Including taking Gravimetric Snare which I know you hate - but only as an IO mule).

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

I just realised that I never knew Unchain Essence was a mag 3 stun!

I have always considered it a damage power, like a fireball on a 4 minute recharge, but I guess it could be viewed as an AoE hold power that causes damage, which turns it from an awful power to a great one and might make me see if I can fit it in instead of using Gravatic Emination as an IO mule.

Thats annoying though because I thought I had my final build lol.

Oh last comment on your build, why the Miracle in Stygian Return? It costs more than a level 50 heal IO and isn't as good.

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"

Great response. I actually agree on alot of what you said.

The pet slotting is something i have actually been concidering but as this would be my 12th respec of this character I am almost loath to do it.

I was contemplating moving a slot out of eclipse and possibly even stygian to 5 slot the dwarf mire. Coming up with another slot for the end proc could be a problem as I'm literaly slot starved as is. Which is also why I have eclipse slotted with efficacy adapter when I Eclipse I normaly hit enough mobs to cap me and the end recovery in eclipse is enough to pump up my dwarf forms end. I do love the pet slotting changes as I'm always trying to eek out more recharge.

The only true dissagreement I have with your assessment is the slotting of gravity well as I use this to drop a single mob after mire and use that poor ******* for Unchain essence. The damage is enough to one shot a Lt. and the recharge on the set is enough to allow me to stack holds to stop bosses cold.

Thanks for the insight and I look forward to tackling your build soon.