What kind of Chance For... Procs Stack?


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If any? Like, chance for rech slow (Dark Watcher) Chance for -recovery (deflated ego) and -Res (Achilles) All of them, do some stack, none, all? Just a quick little question.

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each proc is evaluated independantly.

20% chance for Achilles heel and the same I believe for DW

assuming thats the case

4% chance of of both
16% chance of just Achilles Heel
16% chance of just DW

64% chance of neither



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If you mean stack as in "stack with other procs just like them," I don't think any of them do, so you can't have someone under the effects of two Dark Watchers or two Achilles.

If you had a power that could take all three procs, though, then each would have its own 20% chance to fire, independent of the others. So it's possible to have any number of them go off, or even none.


 

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Originally Posted by MechaCrash View Post
If you mean stack as in "stack with other procs just like them," I don't think any of them do, so you can't have someone under the effects of two Dark Watchers or two Achilles.

If you had a power that could take all three procs, though, then each would have its own 20% chance to fire, independent of the others. So it's possible to have any number of them go off, or even none.
Yea, I meant Stack as in 2 Achilles or 2 Dark Watchers. So, if they don't stack, is it best just to have the proc in 1 attack or say, have 3 of your quick attacks with the same proc to maximize it firing?

Edit: In my case, it is Dark Melee and the Deflated Ego Chance for -Recovery Proc...


 

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If you mean stack as in "stack with other procs just like them," I don't think any of them do, so you can't have someone under the effects of two Dark Watchers or two Achilles.
I believe you're wrong. I believe they stack just like regular powers do. My Bots/Traps MM (AV killer build) can have 2 Acid Mortars out most of the time, and using the Temporary Power: Power Analyzer Mk III I've observed two Achilles Heel effects on an AV. According to City of Data, it doesn't stack from the same caster. So the double stack I saw was from each of the Acid Mortars getting lucky with the proc. Someone slotting those in non-pet powers probably won't be able to stack them. But 8 people in a team could stack it 8 times if they all got lucky.

As to the original question, I wouldn't bother slotting the Deflated Ego at all. Just ask any Electric Blaster, minions die before you drain them of END, Lieutenants too, and bosses it depends on how you slot things. The same is probably true of Recovery debuffs. They will rarely do anything useful.


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As to the original question, I wouldn't bother slotting the Deflated Ego at all. Just ask any Electric Blaster, minions die before you drain them of END, Lieutenants too, and bosses it depends on how you slot things. The same is probably true of Recovery debuffs. They will rarely do anything useful.
Well, to be honest, in a PvE sence, I wouldn't slot them either...however, as I do with all my toons, I make a PvE and a PvP build, so...with that said, thats why I was planning on it, any long fights against other Tanks/Scraps/Brutes I thought I could be useful, so no on that even for that scenario...?


 

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It is probably useful to slot it, and even slot it in several powers, but only for PvP. While it won't stack, it will replace. That means a new one will replace an old one, so you may be able to maintain a constant debuff if you have a Dark Melee buzzsaw type of build.


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