Scrapper Epic/Ancillary


Claudius

 

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Scrapper Epic/Ancillary

So about two months ago Steel Rat an me where talking about Scrappers an Tankers Epics. We both agreed that tanker epic power choices where a lot better than scrappers. Thinking of this I realised scrappers are the only AT on the game to have only three choices of epics.

With Patron an Epics both getting looked at in issue 13. I Thought scrappers Epics should definatly get some love. I have a couple of suggestions for changing some powers in sets an re-making 3 completely new ones. Hope you like them as much as I do.


Dual Gun Mastery
This has been wanted for sometime as a powerset for Scrappers/Brutes etc so making it a Epic imo would be a lot easier an quicker.

1st Power
Caltrops - Normal Caltrops you get the idea. Ranged targeted AoE -Speed -Rech

2nd Power
Dual Wield - Same as the Mastermind power. Changed to fit a scrapper would also like to see it have a chance for disorient. Ranged moderate damage chance for disorient.

3rd Power
Empty Clips - Again same as Mastermind power. Only really buff up damage making the power do ¾ of the damage at the start an then the last ¼ DoT. Ranged Cone moderate/High damage

4th Power
Whirling Guns - You Spin round in a 360degree arc Shooting every Foe that gets in your way. The animation would say look similar to Whirlwind but shooting making this a PBAoE Like burn but with no fear component. Would like it to be a good damage dealer, and a decent size PBAoE say 20Ft/15ft which ever is more balanced. PBAoE High damage.



Archery Mastery
I now there is already Dual Gun mastery above but archery is something I would like to see as well for scrappers for the people who like a little magic with there scrappers and/or people who want more single target damage.

1st Power
Web Grenade - Same as caltrops this power already exists to scrappers an I wanted to keep both the powers in as they are still imo a decent power. Ranged target immobilize -speed -fly -jump

2nd Power
Snap Shot - Ranged Minor damage

3rd Power
Aimed Shot - Ranged shot moderate damage lethal. Typically same as a blaster

4th Power
Ranged Shot - Not sure if this would be overpowered. Snipe Extreme damage lethal



Elemental Mastery
There is no elemental set for scrappers an although I would love a fire/dark/Ice/Stone set all on its own I think then scrappers would get a little to much love. So I had the idea of sticking all the elements together like the nice new shiney shields.

1st Power
Petrifying Gaze - Same as scrapper one from dark mastery Ranged Single target hold slow recharge.

2nd Power
Ice Blast - Ranged moderate smashing an ice damage Foe -rech -speed

3rd Power
Power Sink - PBAoE leeches endurance from enemy +End to self -end to enemy

4th Power
Blazing Bolt - Same snipe as for fire blasters. Ranged Snipe extreme damage Fire.




Body Mastery
Ok I left my most controversial idea for last. Most scrappers pick body mastery an it’s a great set so here is what I think should be added.

1st Power
Laser beam eyes - Same as before

2nd Power
Conserve Power - Same as before

3rd Power
Focused Accuracy - Same again :P

4th Power
Great Boost - Basically this would be Power boost. The Recharge of this would be similar to Power Build up from defender Epics although no Build up in this version. This would obviously need scaling as you could get silly defense on a SR scrapper easy. But if done right this could bring Scrappers back to the PvP table Pre issue13.

Regen - Reconstruction would be the only power from the secondry that could gain anything from this. The Heal from Dull Pain would remain the same using Great Boost or not.

Super Reflexes -This is kinda obvious Power Boost already boosts defense so would act the same only scale it so it only adds say 8/10% def for 15secs.

Invulnerability - This would gain defense like SR from Invin (if ofc you took I)

Fire Armour - Healing Flames the same as reconstruction

Dark Armour - Same again on heal an also I think it has a stun? *not sure on this now it has PBAoE somewhere.

Will Power - Would also gain a little defense.


To Summarize…
The 2 masteries with weapons would not be usable buy Shield/… Scrappers.

The reason there was not Earth power in elemental mastery is that there is currently no earth powers for scrappers.

Archery an Dual Guns will both be able to be customized weapons just like normal weapons.

I hope you all like my idea I think scrappers epics definatly need love an I think this is what they need.

**Edited to change Great Boost an remove the Boost range as just read Caste's info on i13 PvP an wouldnt need a range buff with taunt now **


"We're not tools of the Government or anyone else...
Fighting was the only thing, the only thing I was good at...
But atleast...I always fought for what I believed in!" (Gray Fox)

@Captain Paragon EU @Captain Paragon.

 

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i like the last idea but change the name to a new one though i got my idea aswell

it called chi mastery

first power
focused accuracy: same as the body mastery one.

second power:
inner chi: increase recovery rate and regen by 10% and damage by 10% for 2 mins

third power:
chi strike: total focus animation with same damage types with scrapper level damage

fourth power:
chi blast: same as energy torrent minus the massive end drain

let me know what you think


 

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Although it sounds cool i think body mastery is better name for it as "Chi" implies that your probably a martial artist. Body could be a ranged.

ie a science scrapper where horrible expirement made your bones stick out of your body (spines) an your invincible.
Or your a martial artist.


"We're not tools of the Government or anyone else...
Fighting was the only thing, the only thing I was good at...
But atleast...I always fought for what I believed in!" (Gray Fox)

@Captain Paragon EU @Captain Paragon.

 

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true but it just a idea but if you look through comics you get science origin heroes and some of them can use "chi" though training they got after they got there powers. but i respect your idea and i'll do some fine tuning


 

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Right got it rename it "Inner power mastery" and also rename the "inner chi" power to "inner strength" and and a defense buff along with a hasten end drain when it wears off. actually remane all the power from chi to inner


 

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Dual Gun Mastery
This has been wanted for sometime as a powerset for Scrappers/Brutes etc so making it a Epic imo would be a lot easier an quicker.

1st Power
Caltrops - Normal Caltrops you get the idea. Ranged targeted AoE -Speed -Rech

2nd Power
Dual Wield - Same as the Mastermind power. Changed to fit a scrapper would also like to see it have a chance for disorient. Ranged moderate damage chance for disorient.

3rd Power
Empty Clips - Again same as Mastermind power. Only really buff up damage making the power do ¾ of the damage at the start an then the last ¼ DoT. Ranged Cone moderate/High damage

4th Power
Whirling Guns - You Spin round in a 360degree arc Shooting every Foe that gets in your way. The animation would say look similar to Whirlwind but shooting making this a PBAoE Like burn but with no fear component. Would like it to be a good damage dealer, and a decent size PBAoE say 20Ft/15ft which ever is more balanced. PBAoE High damage.


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I really like this idea, however the first power shouldn't be Caltrops IMO. Don't really think it fits in.
At first I was thinking it should be Single Shot instead. But since you are dual wielding a pair of guns and it is an epic power, it sounds kinda weak.

But then I was thinking maybe Aimed Shot, since it would have a bit more power then.
However if a "mob-control" power is needed it should be Web Grenade then.


 

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I really like this idea, however the first power shouldn't be Caltrops IMO. Don't really think it fits in.
At first I was thinking it should be Single Shot instead. But since you are dual wielding a pair of guns and it is an epic power, it sounds kinda weak.

But then I was thinking maybe Aimed Shot, since it would have a bit more power then.
However if a "mob-control" power is needed it should be Web Grenade then.

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The reason i felt caltrops was a better choice than a web grenade was because the Dual Gun Mastery was meant to be a AoE set. Archery was meant to be single target set. So thats the reason Web nade was in archery an caltrops in Dual gun mastery.

TBH though.. i wish they would just look at scrapper epics cause they seriously need to be looked at. I mean how many scappers do you see with the weapon mastery. I only ever see people with Focussed Accuracy, Conserve power an the odd laser beam eyes. i think i seen one person with the dark mastery. Ive been playing the game for a couple of years now that has to say something about the dark an weapon set?


"We're not tools of the Government or anyone else...
Fighting was the only thing, the only thing I was good at...
But atleast...I always fought for what I believed in!" (Gray Fox)

@Captain Paragon EU @Captain Paragon.

 

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I have tried all three myself at different times. I tend nowadays to either not bother or get Conserve Power. I know several people who swear by either of the torrent like powers from dark or body pools, and I know someone who always uses the weapon mastery.

Yes to new epic pools, but changing or removing the existing pools would be bad.


 

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How about something like the [Web Envelope] from Mace Mastery set or [Wide Area Web Grenade] from the Arachnos Soldier set. (both pretty much the same)
As it would be more a weapon skill and less ninja like.
However I fear this might be a bit to powerful then. But looking at Web Envelope is from a patron powersets. This wouldn't be a problem.