Fire/Kin build critique?


Dior_xx

 

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Hey guys,
I'm pretty new to the forums, but have been playing since i2 untill i7 where I took a long break from the game. Having returned, 5 issues onwards, a lot has changed in the aspect of power slotting.

I created my fire/kin, Futz, in issue 3, before ED and used him for farming the Dreck mission to help fund my many other alts throughout their levels, PLing my friends and just running the map because i enjoyed the feel of his awesomeness. All of this has left him with a hefty 800 Million Inf
Now that i'm returning, i've lost my Dreck map and have collected the Family mission from Unai.

This build is set to farm Family only; no exemping, no travel powers, nothing unecessary. Inf is no problem as i can easily pick up some more. If anyone can tell me if/where i'm going wrong and give some general slotting advice,
Many many thanks

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Futz: Level 50 Mutation Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char <ul type="square">[*] (A) Apocalypse - Damage: Level 50[*] (3) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (3) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (5) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50[*] (5) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (31) Hold Duration IO: Level 50[/list]Level 1: Transfusion <ul type="square">[*] (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50[*] (7) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50[*] (7) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50[*] (17) Doctored Wounds - Recharge: Level 50[*] (31) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50[*] (31) Accuracy IO: Level 50[/list]Level 2: Fire Cages <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50[*] (19) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (19) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (23) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50[*] (23) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (25) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize: Level 50[/list]Level 4: Siphon Power <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[/list]Level 6: Swift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Flight Speed IO: Level 50[/list]Level 8: Hot Feet <ul type="square">[*] (A) Armageddon - Damage: Level 50[*] (9) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (9) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (15) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (15) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50[*] (25) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 10: Siphon Speed <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (11) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (11) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 12: Hasten <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (13) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (13) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 14: Super Speed <ul type="square">[*] (A) Celerity - Endurance: Level 50[*] (46) Celerity - +Stealth: Level 50[/list]Level 16: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Miracle - Heal: Level 40[*] (17) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40[/list]Level 18: Flashfire <ul type="square">[*] (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun: Level 50[*] (34) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge: Level 50[*] (37) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge: Level 50[*] (40) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50[*] (46) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff: Level 50[/list]Level 20: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50[*] (21) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50[*] (21) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50[/list]Level 22: Speed Boost <ul type="square">[*] (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50[/list]Level 24: Boxing <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 26: Tough <ul type="square">[*] (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 50[*] (27) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50[*] (27) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50[/list]Level 28: Weave <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50[*] (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50[*] (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50[/list]Level 30: Cinders <ul type="square">[*] (A) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold: Level 50[*] (40) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge: Level 50[*] (40) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50[*] (43) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50[*] (46) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold: Level 50[/list]Level 32: Fire Imps <ul type="square">[*] (A) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage: Level 50[*] (33) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (33) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (33) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50[*] (34) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (34) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up: Level 50[/list]Level 35: Transference <ul type="square">[*] (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50[*] (36) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50[*] (36) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50[*] (36) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50[*] (37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50[*] (37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50[/list]Level 38: Fulcrum Shift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (39) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[*] (39) Accuracy IO: Level 50[*] (39) Accuracy IO: Level 50[/list]Level 41: Fire Ball <ul type="square">[*] (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50[*] (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50[*] (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50[*] (43) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50[*] (43) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50[/list]Level 44: Fire Shield <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50[*] (45) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50[*] (45) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance: Level 50[*] (45) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50[/list]Level 47: Consume <ul type="square">[*] (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50[*] (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50[*] (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50[*] (48) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50[*] (50) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50[/list]Level 49: Hover <ul type="square">[*] (A) Soaring - FlySpeed: Level 50[*] (50) Soaring - Endurance: Level 50[*] (50) Soaring - Endurance/FlySpeed: Level 50[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Sprint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 2: Rest <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Containment
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]13% DamageBuff(Smashing)[*]13% DamageBuff(Lethal)[*]13% DamageBuff(Fire)[*]13% DamageBuff(Cold)[*]13% DamageBuff(Energy)[*]13% DamageBuff(Negative)[*]13% DamageBuff(Toxic)[*]13% DamageBuff(Psionic)[*]1.58% Defense(Fire)[*]1.58% Defense(Cold)[*]5% Defense(Psionic)[*]4% Enhancement(Heal)[*]69% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]73.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]5% FlySpeed[*]125.9 HP (12.4%) HitPoints[*]5% JumpHeight[*]5% JumpSpeed[*]MezResist(Held) 4.4%[*]MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%[*]MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%[*]MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%[*]26% (0.43 End/sec) Recovery[*]52% (2.21 HP/sec) Regeneration[*]12.9% Resistance(Fire)[*]12.9% Resistance(Cold)[*]3% Resistance(Psionic)[*]10% RunSpeed[*]2.5% XPDebtProtection[/list]------------
[u]Set Bonuses:[u]
[u]Apocalypse[u]
(Char)<ul type="square">[*] 16% (0.68 HP/sec) Regeneration[*] 30.5 HP (3%) HitPoints[*] 4% DamageBuff(All)[*] 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Doctored Wounds[u]
(Transfusion)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%[*] 1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)[*] 4% Enhancement(Heal)[*] 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Ragnarok[u]
(Fire Cages)<ul type="square">[*] 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery[*] 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)[*] 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Armageddon[u]
(Hot Feet)<ul type="square">[*] 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery[*] 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)[*] 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Celerity[u]
(Super Speed)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%[/list][u]Miracle[u]
(Health)<ul type="square">[*] 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery[/list][u]Absolute Amazement[u]
(Flashfire)<ul type="square">[*] 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery[*] 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)[*] 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Titanium Coating[u]
(Tough)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%[*] 15.3 HP (1.5%) HitPoints[/list][u]Luck of the Gambler[u]
(Weave)<ul type="square">[*] 10% (0.42 HP/sec) Regeneration[*] 11.4 HP (1.13%) HitPoints[*] 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Unbreakable Constraint[u]
(Cinders)<ul type="square">[*] 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery[*] 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)[*] 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Soulbound Allegiance[u]
(Fire Imps)<ul type="square">[*] 16% (0.68 HP/sec) Regeneration[*] 30.5 HP (3%) HitPoints[*] 4% DamageBuff(All)[*] MezResist(Held) 4.4%[*] 5% Defense(Psionic)[/list][u]Efficacy Adaptor[u]
(Transference)<ul type="square">[*] 11.4 HP (1.13%) HitPoints[*] 1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery[*] 10% (0.42 HP/sec) Regeneration[*] 2.5% DamageBuff(All)[*] 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Positron's Blast[u]
(Fire Ball)<ul type="square">[*] 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery[*] 1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)[*] 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Aegis[u]
(Fire Shield)<ul type="square">[*] 5% RunSpeed[*] 1.58% Defense(Fire,Cold)[*] 2.5% XPDebtProtection[*] 3% Resistance(Psionic)[/list][u]Performance Shifter[u]
(Consume)<ul type="square">[*] 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed[*] 19.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints[*] 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery[*] 2.5% DamageBuff(All)[/list][u]Soaring[u]
(Hover)<ul type="square">[*] 1% (0.02 End/sec) Recovery[*] 7.63 HP (0.75%) HitPoints[/list]


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Family mission is no longer the farm mission doe to a hefty nerf from the powers that be.

Get yourself - Battle Maiden + Warrior clan mission.

As for build, here are a few glancing suggestions to change.

* Don't Slot Char, Farmers have no use for single target holds.

* Change swift for hurdle, with Superspeed you don't need it Hurdle will make up for lack of vertical movement

* Siphon Speed should be 6 slotted for full accuracy + full recharge, if you can get these percentages from IO Sets do so but don't sacrifice it for sets

* No need for a stealth IO, farmers want the agro.

* You need Kockback protection Io's in both Epic shield + tough

* I don't use weave or any Defense, +2 Mobs don't often miss :/

* for gawd sake 6 slot Fulcrum shift, 3acc 3rech

* Hover? Don't start me.


My Fir/Kin/Fire is a great farming toon, i got 2 toons from creation to level 30 in past 4 days, and i only play after work for a few hours... get me in game at @Donna for an example and a few runs.


Carlsberg don't do Farming,
But if they did..........

 

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Donna, you are a godsend!

[ QUOTE ]
Family mission is no longer the farm mission doe to a hefty nerf from the powers that be.

Get yourself - Battle Maiden + Warrior clan mission.

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Nerf from what powers? Something i've missed?

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* Don't Slot Char, Farmers have no use for single target holds.

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Use this mainly to stop the random stragglers, if i down a mob and there's just one guy left - don't particularly want to waste a fireball with him. 5 Slotted for the 10% Recharge, allows me to nip Perma Haste.

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* Change swift for hurdle, with Superspeed you don't need it Hurdle will make up for lack of vertical movement

* Hover? Don't start me.

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Back when i originally began farming, I had no knockback protection - hover gave me the protection that I needed. Plus I enjoy the feel of capped fly speed and float at head level of the mobs. Not sure if it still does, but back in i7 you could float over a mob, they'd take hot feet damage and couldn't melee you.

[ QUOTE ]
* Siphon Speed should be 6 slotted for full accuracy + full recharge, if you can get these percentages from IO Sets do so but don't sacrifice it for sets

* for gawd sake 6 slot Fulcrum shift, 3acc 3rech

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Figured that with an enhanced base +169% accuracy and 183% recharge and slotting the powers with 83% accuracy and 83% recharge enhancements I wouldn't need to six slot them.
Could only get an extra 10% on each per slot, thought I could find a more effective use for them.

I've taken Tough and Weave just because I realised i'm practically capped for defense - I love to grab as much as I can and need to guarentee myself NO downtime for anything. Exra defence means less heals which means more attacks. That and I couldn't find anything better to waste three powers on that would be half as effective ;D

You're a legend, I love you.
Will definatly hit you up sometime to tag along with a run of a mission to check it out.
Not too fluent with Battle Maiden map - from what I remember, it's easy to miss a few mobs.

Any other input is definatly needed and greatly appreciated!


 

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I'm not really sure why you have consume - its has too long of a recharge, and i don't think you'll be using it much at all, with the amount of global recharge you have from sets transference will be back up prety fast, FS 5 slot it atleast, for 3x Recharge IO's, if you're farming don't really bother with hover, weave is too much of a end hog for such a small amount of defence. I would just get tough, manoevers (instead of weave to slot LoTG rech) and then Tactics. Short list of how i would change you're build. Send me a pm @liqour if you want more explained