FF +rchg proc still worth putting into robots?
I guess nobody is going to reply to this.
In case anyone cares I've decided to just slot my pets with the smashing damage procs from the Explosive Strike set in their 6th slot - mainly because the recipes were cheap and available (unlike Force Feedback: +rchg on redside), but also so I can test in a very visible way how often the pets proc it, seeing as only the Assault Bot seems to have more than 1 KB power. Also, with pet buff icons being broken, I wouldn't notice an FF +rchg buff being applied anyway so couldn't evaluate it properly, but with a damage proc I can look out for the proc numbers above the targets' heads.
Once I've tested it to see whether the proc-rate is reasonable I may post my findings here... although seeing the deluge of interest in this post to date perhaps I won't bother
I'm just going to add an uneducated comment based on my own observations...
...are you sure the Force Feedback proc even -has- a buff icon? I'm asking because I know for a fact Build Up procs don't have buff icons, the only visible signs of the proc going off are a short spike in your damage or watching the numbers in Combat Attributes.
I'm not really experienced enough to give you reliable advice on the original question, though - Only MM I've gotten past level 16 or so is Thugs/Dark. I've -heard- that the FF proc still procs often enough to be highly useful, though, so slotting it into the AssBot might not be a bad idea... However, I'd try to get a more educated opinion.
The FF Proc icon is the same as Dark Armor's Soul Transfer.
Assault Bot still does well with it via the missiles, but I wouldn't bother sticking it in a pet that doesn't have knockback AoEs now TBH. Bruiser has Handclap and Footstomp, so it's still useful there.
At present I've got a 10% Resistance and FF +Rech Proc in the Assault Bot, and a 5% Defence and Smashing Damage Proc in the Battle Drones. Protector Bots are better slotted for Defence/Acc/Damage/Endred than procs, makes a big difference to get the bubbles from 7.5% to 12% defence when they're double-stacked.
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The FF Proc icon is the same as Dark Armor's Soul Transfer.
Assault Bot still does well with it via the missiles, but I wouldn't bother sticking it in a pet that doesn't have knockback AoEs now TBH. Bruiser has Handclap and Footstomp, so it's still useful there.
At present I've got a 10% Resistance and FF +Rech Proc in the Assault Bot, and a 5% Defence and Smashing Damage Proc in the Battle Drones. Protector Bots are better slotted for Defence/Acc/Damage/Endred than procs, makes a big difference to get the bubbles from 7.5% to 12% defence when they're double-stacked.
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That's the kind of opinion I was looking for - thanks Mael. Just watching for the damage procs has shown me that the two lower tiers of bots don't really proc that often with a KB set proc.
Slotting the ProtBots with defence is something I didn't even consider, probably because I was thinking IOs only and they don't take defence sets - I may respec and drop the damage proc and aura from the ProtBots (I could move the +def aura from them to Assault Bot and forget about the Taunt/Placate resist aura altogether) which would leave me 2 slots free in the ProtBots for common Defence IOs. I could switch out the damage proc in the Assault Bot for a FF +rchg at the same time.
I'm in no rush, though - I'd still welcome more opinions on pet slotting
And yeah there is definitely an icon for FF +rchg, Col_Blitz - as Mael says it's the same as Soul Transfer (and Dark Miasma's Howling Twilight) - from using that IO on my Warshade and Scrapper I know the icon goes up for 10secs after each proc to mark the suppression period (5secs of effect, then 5secs of suppression before it can proc again).
I12 has fixed the Force Feedback "chance for recharge" IO to not proc on every use, so is it still worth slotting it into mastermind pets, specifically robots? I'd be interested to hear from any robotics/ MM players who have this IO slotted as to whether they feel it is worth having over a regular damage proc IO to increase pet dps.
Also does it change pet behaviour for robots? Pre-I12 I read that it made the Bruiser from /Thugs more likely to melee than stay at range - obviously not so useful if it does the same for bots.
The reason I ask is that I plan to respec and re-slot my L50 Robotics/Dark MM in the near future, as I have some spare inf kicking around and have finished re-slotting most of my other pre-Inventions villains. I havent really played this MM much since I7 so he is still slotted with SOs. I don't really want to spend more than 100mill inf in total on him, so I'm avoiding purples, but Ive already acquired the +res and +def global aura pet IOs and nothing else in my planned build looks that expensive, so I could afford to splurge inf on some FF +rchg IOs if they were going to be worthwhile.
My planned pet slotting, for all 3 pets, is 6 slotting with 2 L50 Blood Mandates (Acc/Dmg & Acc/Dmg/End), 2 L50 Sovereign Rights (Acc/Dmg & Acc/Dmg/End), one of the unique aura IOs in each pet (+def in one, +res in another, +Taunt/Placate resist in third), then filling the last slot with either the FF +rchg proc or the Smashing damage proc from the Explosive Strike set. This soft-caps Acc & Dmg and gives 42% EndRdx.
All advice is welcome.