my main zigzagg is claws SR,i have chosen every SR power and also took aid self , as i feel my survivability increased a lot.
Do you plan on any PVP with him? if so that will also make power choices different, personally i respec'd at 50 for a more pvp friendy char.
I'm just planning on PvE for the moment. I'm not really sure which of the passives to get first though. also I want to get Spin, I can't fit it in yet, I was hoping to get it in the 20s.
Has anyone got a levelling up build for Claws/SR?
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
Here's my Claws/SR build (I'm at level 35 at the mo)...
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Name: Desert Run
Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Claws
Secondary: Super Reflexes
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01) --> Strike==> Acc(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) EndRdx(45) Rechg(48)
01) --> Focused Fighting==> EndRdx(1) EndRdx(5) DefBuf(13) DefBuf(15) DefBuf(17)
02) --> Slash==> Acc(2) Dmg(3) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) EndRdx(43) Rechg(48)
04) --> Focused Senses==> EndRdx(4) EndRdx(5) DefBuf(13) DefBuf(15) DefBuf(17)
06) --> Swift==> Run(6)
08) --> Follow Up==> Acc(8) Dmg(11) Dmg(23) Dmg(29) EndRdx(43) Rechg(50)
10) --> Practiced Brawler==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> EndRdx(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14) Jump(46)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16) Heal(34) Heal(34)
18) --> Focus==> Acc(18) Dmg(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(23) EndRdx(40) Rechg(46)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Quickness==> Run(22)
24) --> Dodge==> DefBuf(24) DefBuf(25) DefBuf(25)
26) --> Eviscerate==> Acc(26) Dmg(27) Dmg(27) Dmg(29) EndRdx(37) Rechg(50)
28) --> Lucky==> DefBuf(28) DefBuf(31) DefBuf(34)
30) --> Agile==> DefBuf(30) DefBuf(31) DefBuf(31)
32) --> Shockwave==> Acc(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) EndRdx(37) Rechg(50)
35) --> Evasion==> EndRdx(35) EndRdx(36) DefBuf(36) DefBuf(36) DefBuf(37)
38) --> Elude==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) DefBuf(39) DefBuf(40) DefBuf(40)
41) --> Focused Accuracy==> EndRdx(41) EndRdx(42) TH_Buf(42) TH_Buf(42) TH_Buf(43)
44) --> Conserve Power==> Rechg(44) Rechg(45) Rechg(45) EndRdx(46)
47) --> Assault==> EndRdx(47) EndRdx(48)
49) --> Hurdle==> Jump(49)
It is tight, i can understand ya wanting spin but in the middle of a fight cones and aoes can stack against you. I took spin early in respec but late in actuality.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
I'm not sure I understand you there. Are you saying that my lack of defence against AoE attacks means that when I'm in a good place to use Spin, I'll get mashed by enemy AoEs. If so good point..
Currently I am using an attack chain of Follow Up, Focus, Strike, Slash, whatever recharges next...
This works well with Hasten active, as I can repeat the chain but falls down quickly when it isn't on.
In a PM Zigzag told me that Follow Up, Focus and Eviscerate can chain together ( with a slight gap ) with Hasten Active. So I think that when I get Eviscerate and fully slot it ( level 29 or later I think ) I can drop Slash and use that attack chain. Strike should fill in the holes when Hasten is not active.
Although I did read somewhere that Eviscerate is not worth it as in just a little bit more time ( 0.33 s ), you can use Slash and Strike and it does more damage, this means I wouldn't have to respec
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
Yep you understood me and buffs from team can help versus the lack of cone/AoE def or from simply being single targeted by much melee damage.
I think Eviscerate is worth getting. Everyone in my opinion should have a ST chain and AoEs to multihit with.
Your follow up is every 5secs which is good to keep up tohit and buff accuracy as well as buff damage. Once you have 3 SOs in each power the buff is small but in time works out to be alot.
The ST attacks are always better used on ST than AoE attacks on any toon and Eviscerate is an AoE. If lots are attacking you or there are lots to defeat then you are better off with AoEs and if you can hit as little as 2 or more with Eviscerate most of the time then its the greater power.
So only if your planning on PVP duels etc then skip eviscerate and keep to follow up focus strike slash 1.3 sec gap? follow up but that 1.3 sec gap is a problem id fill with eviscerate and use follow up a second later than normal.
For me though if ya not multihitting everything in sight you have missed the real damage of claws.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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I think Eviscerate is worth getting. Everyone in my opinion should have a ST chain and AoEs to multihit with.
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I'd prefer a proper AoE such as Shockwave or Spin rather than Eviscerate. It has the same Cone size as Ripper from Spines which is a power I'm familiar with. Ripper is a no brainer must have power in spines, however it does more damage than Eviscerate ( because of the DoT ) and has great secondary effects. Also Spines is distinctly lacking in decent single target attacks. Claw on the other hand has loads.
From looking at my build, I have to choose between 2 of Slash, Spin and Eviscerate. I definitely want to get Shockwave.
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The ST attacks are always better used on ST than AoE attacks on any toon and Eviscerate is an AoE. If lots are attacking you or there are lots to defeat then you are better off with AoEs and if you can hit as little as 2 or more with Eviscerate most of the time then its the greater power.
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From using Ripper, I'd say I'd be able to hit 2 or more enemies about 10%-20% of the time. It really is a rubbish sized cone.
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So only if your planning on PVP duels etc then skip eviscerate and keep to follow up focus strike slash 1.3 sec gap? follow up but that 1.3 sec gap is a problem id fill with eviscerate and use follow up a second later than normal.
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Follow Up Strike Slash Focus Strike works pretty well. The second part of the chain I can put an AoE in.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
If you dont get much out of Ripper, I cant say that you'd get less out of eviscerate. With Shockwaves ability to kb you can bunch at times. If you could multihit with to the maximum amount of targets everytime then each damage to a target adds up to quality damage per end but even 2 targets makes it better than most single target attacks.
That 1.3 secs only needs to finish with Shockwave/Spin really as shockwave can sometimes be an opener or spin the more tanker friendly before follow up.
Eviscerate does have really good critical hit capability but how that varies to anything else i dont know but i probably get more out of Eviscerate than Spin myself.
My build is only missing swipe anyways and its a case of using the attack for the situation.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
I have a Claws/SR, has anyone got any build advice.
Currently I'm level 16 this is kind of my plan. Anything after 23 is not decided.
This is my current build with SO slotting, current slotting is slightly different
01) --> Strike==> Acc(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(7) Dmg(13)
01) --> Focused Fighting==> DefBuf(1) DefBuf(7) DefBuf(15)
02) --> Slash==> Acc(2) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(5) Rechg(31)
04) --> Focused Senses==> DefBuf(4) DefBuf(13) DefBuf(23)
06) --> Hurdle==> Jump(6)
08) --> Follow Up==> Acc(8) Rechg(9) Rechg(9) Rechg(11) Acc(15)
10) --> Practiced Brawler==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12) Rechg(17) Rechg(17)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Focus==> Dmg(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(23)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Quickness==> Run(22)
It all seems kind of tight.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.