Actually knockback protection basically equals immunity, because if you get knockbacked or knockdowned at all, the damage is already done. Dunno what KB resistance would refer to. Not to mention that every single toon (not just melee toons) in the game can get knockback protection from acrobatics, and there is no way to overcome that protection (unless you hold them and drop acrobatics) .
Unfortunately. There are some melee toons that dont have KB protection in their secondary/primary (fire tanks and ninjitsu stalkers at least) but they will propably get acrobatics.
Not 100% sure, but I think there IS a "Mag" system in place for Knockback. I know that with my scrapper running Integration I still get inconvenienced by Ice patch (not Perma-Knockdowned, but fairly regularly).
And I can *eventually* Knockback/Knockdown a AV or EB if I keep attacking him with Soaring Dragon/Golden Dragonfly/Air Superiority/Energy Torrent.
Seem to recall Acrobatics being listed as having about 10 times the Knockback Protection "Mag" as most scrapper/tank mez protection toggles.
For all intents and purposes though, repel's knockback can be very easily countered in PVP. It's a case of the power "repel" not having the effect of "repel" (which only very few powers can resist) but rather the effect of "knockback" (which virtually all mez protection toggles and acrobatics resist).
KB does indeed have a magnitude. However, most of the time it's irrelevant, since usually you're not going to be able to stack KB's to break through protection.
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Actually knockback protection basically equals immunity, because if you get knockbacked or knockdowned at all, the damage is already done. Dunno what KB resistance would refer to. Not to mention that every single toon (not just melee toons) in the game can get knockback protection from acrobatics, and there is no way to overcome that protection (unless you hold them and drop acrobatics) .
sorry to comment but i thought that ninjitsu stalks had a power similair to practiced brawler in their set, thats KB resistance right, if so just tell me im wrong, pretty used to it hehehe 
Unfortunately. There are some melee toons that dont have KB protection in their secondary/primary (fire tanks and ninjitsu stalkers at least) but they will propably get acrobatics.
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KB does indeed have a magnitude. However, most of the time it's irrelevant, since usually you're not going to be able to stack KB's to break through protection.
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Uhm..that's what i supposed...its just i dont like that...
I mean, i play scrapper too so im not saying that cause im a troller, but all this protection buff is ridicolous...
Ok, you have protection so you're not gonna fly away when im near you, but repel (or Hurricane) is always on (if you push it on, of course) and is autohit, so, if a scrapper/stalker stay near it for 5-6-7-8-9-10 seconds..come on! they're protection have to break!
Every hit or repel is announced by a "boing" sound, well i think 4-5 boing should be enough to throw away everyones, even with protection... otherwise, protection becomes an immunity (and its too strong) and repel/knockback powers become helpless (..and its not good)
Its always the same thing.. when i play my scrappers i kill trollers too easily, they try to stack holds on me but they are rarely able to stop me before i kill them. i admit it, that's fun.
But when i play my trollers, i understand its not fun because you're dmg sucks (expecially now, with epic nerf -.-), you're hp sucks (and that's ok for a troller) and you're control powers are not that great in pvp, cause you have to stack stack stack stack (bosses needs 2 hold, max) and you have pvp hold suppression too.
I dont think trollers need to be increased (well, epic didnt really want that nerf -.-), but maybe someone else need a nerf.
i thought that ninjutsu stalks had a power like practiced brawler, that offers KB resistance right, if not just say m8 (hammerfall)
Ninjitsu stalkers get "Kuji-In Rin" which is essentially Practised Brawler with Fear and Confuse Proection, but without Knockback protection.
They can still get acrobatics though.
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i thought that ninjutsu stalks had a power like practiced brawler, that offers KB resistance right, if not just say m8 (hammerfall)
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They have, but it doesnt offer KB protection, unlike practised brawler.
Just got Repel on my lvl 30 Grav/Kin, i know lot of people dont like repel cause they think is totally helpless but draining endurance.. but i wanted to give it a try.
I like it in PVE, nobody resist it, i can perma hold boss against walls and that's so fun..
in pvp it works well against MM pets, corruptors, dominators, defenders and blasters but it becomes totally helpless with tankers/brutes/scrappers/stalkers.
ATM, my repel has just one slot, so i was wondering if its worth to add 2 knockback enchs..
I know stalkers and co have status res, but you can hold them (stacking 3 holds -.- even with a troller... i think thats too much, but its not the point), so why cant you repel them? i mean, they're powers say "knockback" resistance, not immunity!! so, does anybody know if you can repel them, using 3 knockback enchs?