Seeking advice on a respec triform Warshade build


Amazing_Shnyet

 

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Hello all. I severely fluffed the last respec of my warshade Moondog, with the aim of being triform but slotting the forms too lightly for my liking. I am therefore proposing the below respec build (which is heavily based on the builds Iscariot posted on the US boards):

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Name: Moondog
Level: 50
Archetype: Warshade
Primary: Umbral Blast
Secondary: Umbral Aura
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01) --> Shadow Bolt==> Acc(1) Dmg(37) Dmg(42) Dmg(50)
01) --> Absorption==> DmgRes(1)
02) --> Gravity Shield==> DmgRes(2) DmgRes(37) DmgRes(43)
04) --> Gravimetric Snare==> Acc(4) Dmg(37) Dmg(42) Dmg(50)
06) --> Dark Nova==> TH_Buf(6) TH_Buf(9) TH_Buf(11) EndMod(17)
08) --> Starless Step==> Acc(8)
10) --> Hasten==> Rechg(10) Rechg(13) Rechg(15)
12) --> Sunless Mire==> Acc(12) Rechg(13) Rechg(15) Rechg(46)
14) --> Shadow Cloak==> EndRdx(14)
16) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(16)
18) --> Gravity Well==> Acc(18) Acc(19) Hold(19) Hold(36) Dmg(45) Dmg(46)
20) --> Black Dwarf==> DmgRes(20) DmgRes(21) DmgRes(21) EndMod(23) EndMod(34)
22) --> Stygian Circle==> EndRdx(22) EndMod(43)
24) --> Hurdle==> Jump(24)
26) --> Gravity Emanation==> Acc(26) DisDur(31)
28) --> Health==> Heal(28)
30) --> Inky Aspect==> Acc(30) DisDur(31)
32) --> Dark Extraction==> Acc(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Rechg(33) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
35) --> Quasar==> Dmg(35) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Rechg(40)
38) --> Eclipse==> DmgRes(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(39)
41) --> Stamina==> EndMod(41) EndMod(50)
44) --> Nebulous Form==> EndRdx(44)
47) --> Unchain Essence==> Dmg(47) Dmg(48) Dmg(48)
49) --> Stygian Return==> Heal(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Shadow Step==> Empty(1)
10) --> Shadow Recall==> Empty(10)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Dark Sustenance==> Empty(1)
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06) --> Dark Nova Blast==> Dmg(6) Dmg(5) Dmg(17) Rechg(48)
06) --> Dark Nova Bolt==> Dmg(6) Dmg(5) Dmg(45)
06) --> Dark Nova Detonation==> Dmg(6) Dmg(9) Dmg(11)
06) --> Dark Nova Emmanation==> Dmg(6) Dmg(7) Dmg(7)
20) --> Black Dwarf Strike==> Acc(20) Dmg(25) Dmg(45) Rechg(46)
20) --> Black Dwarf Smite==> Acc(20) Dmg(23) Dmg(29) Rechg(31) Dmg(42)
20) --> Black Dwarf Mire==> Acc(20) Rechg(3) Rechg(3) Rechg(43)
20) --> Black Dwarf Drain==> Acc(20) Heal(27) Rechg(29) Heal(40)
20) --> Black Dwarf Step==> EndRdx(20)
20) --> Black Dwarf Antagonize==> Acc(20) Taunt(25) Rechg(27) Taunt(40)
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Moondog is currently level 34. This build takes advantage of the fact that when respecing you can place slots right from level 3 into the Nove and Dwarf forms.

What do you guys think? I've tried to be very careful of the slotting order to maximise my warshade's utility as he levels. Any problems you can see or advice you can offer would be appreciated .


@Moondog
Union:
CoH: Moondog (WS); V-Rock (Tnk, semi-retired); Pole-Star (Bla); Demon Dog (Scr).
CoV: Midnight Gunner (Corr); Operative John Doe (Ban); Day-Star (Dom); Commissar Jaeger (MM).

 

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Everything looks pretty much fine.
Although taking Stamina so late my just be pointless. Are you having endurance problems?
Even if you are intent on getting it, leave it until later.
Take Health later, take Unchain Essence earlier. Ie 28-30. Absolute gem of a power, and your most powerful attack outside Quasar.
Maybe switch the Recharge on Blast with a recharge or Acc on Emanation.

Other than that, after a quick glance, everything looks fine.


 

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[ QUOTE ]
Everything looks pretty much fine.
Although taking Stamina so late my just be pointless. Are you having endurance problems?
Even if you are intent on getting it, leave it until later.
Take Health later, take Unchain Essence earlier. Ie 28-30. Absolute gem of a power, and your most powerful attack outside Quasar.
Maybe switch the Recharge on Blast with a recharge or Acc on Emanation.

Other than that, after a quick glance, everything looks fine.

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Thanks for the advice . My current build has stamina already by lvl 34 but I think I can survive without it (I will be trying my respec on test first to be sure ). In my respec build I have it in the post 40 zone more as a 'may as well' power (since I have hurdle and health) and it doen't really need slots, so I can devote them to other powers.

I have Health at lvl 28 to cover the health loss from Inky Aspect. Do you think I will be OK leaving it till later?

Hmm...I'll try to move Unchained Essence earlier but I suppose I'll have to find some slots in the 30s. Ho hum, I suppose "Where do I find the slots?" is the most common question for a Kheldian .


@Moondog
Union:
CoH: Moondog (WS); V-Rock (Tnk, semi-retired); Pole-Star (Bla); Demon Dog (Scr).
CoV: Midnight Gunner (Corr); Operative John Doe (Ban); Day-Star (Dom); Commissar Jaeger (MM).

 

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I run at 41 without Stamina without any major problems. I find Stygian and Eclipse keep me more than happy.
I slotted my two main attacks per form with Endred rather than slotting the form for Endmod. It definately helped my Dwarf more (who IIRC has a lower pseudo-Stamina level than Nova).

You find a use for Inky? And as often as to require another power pick?
Its in my build but must say its my most underused power. I just find im either Tankin in Dwarf or Blasting in Nova. No time to sit in Human. Only time i can think to use it is if you put it on for a TP-eclipse run....

And as for taking Stamina as a "oh well, may aswell, i got powers comin out the wazoo!" choice, try looking at the other pools.
Concealment for Grant Invis on pets
Medicine for Reviving people after only yourself survived (happens a lot post-Eclipse) or having a heal not linked to enemies
Leadership - on the grapevine i hear we have the same combat multiplyer for Defenders in this pool.
Presence for Human Taunt. Also i can vouch for the awesomeness of Double Mire Invoke Panic.

The list goes on, but taking a boring pool like Fitness on the most versatile build in the game seems a lil.....off

Try a lil outside of the box thinking and what your combat chain is. You'll find holes in your build and crazy solutions. I know i did, and my build is far from cookie cutter now but my word it gets the job done


 

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Fair points, I'm probably still stuck in the "must have stamina regardless" mindset, although I have a staminaless TA/A defender so I should know better!

Thanks for the further feedback, I will put on my thinking cap and come up with another build.


@Moondog
Union:
CoH: Moondog (WS); V-Rock (Tnk, semi-retired); Pole-Star (Bla); Demon Dog (Scr).
CoV: Midnight Gunner (Corr); Operative John Doe (Ban); Day-Star (Dom); Commissar Jaeger (MM).