can some1 tell me good build 4 a nin/nin stalker?


Amazing_Shnyet

 

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ive been thinkin, is smokeflash any good? is it better than placcate? is caltorps any good either?? do i need placcate?? shall i have defens or end SOs in danger sense and ninja reflexes??? so little slots so much powers!!

this is what i intend to respec to:

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 28
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Ninja Blade
Secondary: Ninjitsu
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01) --> Sting of the Wasp==> Dmg(1)Dmg(3)Dmg(3)Acc(5)Acc(5)Rechg(13)
01) --> Hide==> DefBuf(1)
02) --> Ninja Reflexes==> EndRdx(2)EndRdx(15)
04) --> Danger Sense==> EndRdx(4)EndRdx(15)
06) --> Assassin's Blade==> Dmg(6)Dmg(7)Dmg(7)Acc(9)Acc(9)Acc(13)
08) --> Build Up==> Rechg(8)Rechg(11)Rechg(11)
10) --> Swift==> Run(10)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)Heal(17)Heal(17)
18) --> Divine Avalanche==> DefBuf(18)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(19)
20) --> Kuji-In Sha==> Heal(20)Heal(21)Heal(21)Rechg(23)Rechg(23)Rechg(25)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22)
24) --> Kuji-In Rin==> Rechg(24)Rechg(25)
26) --> Soaring Dragon==> Dmg(26)Dmg(27)Dmg(27)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Assassination==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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I need tips so i can finish this build planning.
mostly the questions in the beggining i need answer to but there is so much more, critisise it!
on lvl 28 its placcate or smokeflash, wich one?


 

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Smoke flash is bad.

Placate is a must.

Thats a start. Caltrops normally isn't worth it unless you make a build that specifically needs it (like tp foe in pvp or whatnot).

You will want to 3-slot your defensive toggles with defbuffs sooner or later. Rin is important so is Sha. The build above is a nice start . I'd take hurdle instead of swift though.

Edit: Well in normal PvE there are a lot of ways to build your character so experiment and have fun.


 

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How come smoke flash is bad? I imagine an AoE placate would be a great "OH ****!!!" power.


 

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its one of those powers you pickup thinking 'oh that will be a great OH !!!!!!! power' and end up not using it.
Only thing i found a use for it is when you log off you can hit it 1 second before you log off and vanish in a puff of smoke .
Plus when smokeflash wears off they just come after you again anyway so defeats the whole purpose.


Defiant's GoEH/MILITIS METUS

 

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Plus when smokeflash wears off they just come after you again anyway so defeats the whole purpose.

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Isn't that a bit like placate? When I placate if I am still in the immediate vicinity of that enemy when they come out of it then they attack me again, even if they don't have line of sight to me. However it seems that if I placate and leg it far away they don't follow.

Interested because I was planning to get smokeflash on my nin/nin .


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Plus when smokeflash wears off they just come after you again anyway so defeats the whole purpose.

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Isn't that a bit like placate? When I placate if I am still in the immediate vicinity of that enemy when they come out of it then they attack me again, even if they don't have line of sight to me. However it seems that if I placate and leg it far away they don't follow.

Interested because I was planning to get smokeflash on my nin/nin .

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well .. lets say for example your at the top of the mission map and you use smokeflash on a group of npc's
Then you run allllllllllllllll the way to the bottom of the mission map to the entrance.
Now with placate you wouldn't expect those npc's to show up now would you, but with smokeflash they would be jogging around the corner looking for the stalker who threw powder in there eyes 5 mins ago.
Thats the difference between smoke and placate.
Plus theres no hide with smoke, its just a placate.


Defiant's GoEH/MILITIS METUS

 

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so its placcate at 28 then.....but i can probly fitt in smokeflash at 30.


 

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well .. lets say for example your at the top of the mission map and you use smokeflash on a group of npc's
Then you run allllllllllllllll the way to the bottom of the mission map to the entrance.
Now with placate you wouldn't expect those npc's to show up now would you, but with smokeflash they would be jogging around the corner looking for the stalker who threw powder in there eyes 5 mins ago.
Thats the difference between smoke and placate.
Plus theres no hide with smoke, its just a placate.

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Well that sucks. Thanks for the heads up, I may just have to take a more useful power then (like Flurry ).


@Moondog
Union:
CoH: Moondog (WS); V-Rock (Tnk, semi-retired); Pole-Star (Bla); Demon Dog (Scr).
CoV: Midnight Gunner (Corr); Operative John Doe (Ban); Day-Star (Dom); Commissar Jaeger (MM).

 

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Id always hoped Smoke would be effective against Mayhem mobs, and hostage ambush parties, as they can see straight through Hide.

Or after an alpha (combined with the Confuse) to reduce incoming.

Although i hear the animation is quite long.


 

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so its placcate at 28 then.....but i can probly fitt in smokeflash at 30.

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You'd be stupid to take placate that late.
Sorry but i'm just being honest.


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what shall i skip then?


 

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its not what you can skip its what you can put off till later and placate is a power you DO NOT want to put off till later.


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