my proposed ws build (PvE)

OoOozy · 07-02-2006 02:35 PM

this is my proposed build, im lv 33 atm and this is what i expect to follow after i respec at lv 39. Need suggestions and Comments =) thanks guys

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Warshade
Primary: Umbral Blast
Secondary: Umbral Aura
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01) --> Ebon Eye==> Dmg(1)Dmg(3)Acc(3)Dmg(9)Acc(15)EndRdx(19)
01) --> Absorption==> DmgRes(1)
02) --> Shadow Bolt==> Dmg(2)Dmg(27)Dmg(27)Acc(29)Acc(29)EndRdx(33)
04) --> Gravity Shield==> DmgRes(4)DmgRes(5)EndRdx(5)DmgRes(11)
06) --> Shadow Blast==> Dmg(6)Dmg(7)Acc(7)Dmg(9)Acc(17)EndRdx(19)
08) --> Hurdle==> Empty(8)
10) --> Penumbral Shield==> DmgRes(10)DmgRes(11)EndRdx(13)DmgRes(13)
12) --> Dark Matter Detonation==> Dmg(12)Acc(31)EndRdx(33)Acc(34)Dmg(36)Dmg(37)
14) --> Health==> Heal(14)Heal(15)Heal(31)
16) --> Twilight Shield==> DmgRes(16)EndRdx(17)DmgRes(34)DmgRes(34)
18) --> Gravity Well==> Dmg(18)Acc(21)EndRdx(37)Dmg(40)Acc(42)Dmg(43)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(31)
22) --> Stygian Circle==> EndMod(22)Rechg(23)Rechg(23)EndMod(45)
24) --> Sunless Mire==> Acc(24)Rechg(25)Rechg(25)Acc(45)
26) --> Unchain Essence==> Rechg(26)Dmg(37)
28) --> Inky Aspect==> EndRdx(28)Acc(46)
30) --> Gravity Emanation==> Acc(30)Dmg(36)EndRdx(36)Acc(43)EndRdx(45)
32) --> Dark Extraction==> Acc(32)Rechg(33)Rechg(43)
35) --> Quasar==> Rechg(35)Dmg(46)Dmg(46)
38) --> Eclipse==> Acc(38)DmgRes(39)DmgRes(39)Acc(39)Rechg(40)Rechg(40)
41) --> Stygian Return==> Rechg(41)Rechg(42)Heal(42)
44) --> Shadow Cloak==> DefBuf(44)
47) --> Combat Jumping==> EndRdx(47)DefBuf(48)DefBuf(48)DefBuf(48)
49) --> Super Jump==> EndRdx(49)Jump(50)Jump(50)Jump(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Shadow Step==> EndRdx(1)
01) --> Dark Sustenance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
10) --> Shadow Recall==> Range(10)
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double_EU · 07-02-2006 03:09 PM

Looks like a nice build, just a note though, you will want the pet 6 slotted.

@Double

Double Flame 50 fire/devices
Double Shade 50 tri-form warshade
Double Light 50 dwarf-human peacebringer
Double Control 50 earth/rad

Mongoose_EU · 07-02-2006 03:13 PM

i just made a WS build it doesnt have acrobatics or any leaping powers so you may become disoriented at times

here it is if you wanna see it
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Mongoose SP
Level: 50
Archetype: Warshade
Primary: Umbral Blast
Secondary: Umbral Aura
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01) --> Shadow Bolt==> Dmg(1)Acc(36)EndRdx(36)
01) --> Absorption==> DmgRes(1)DmgRes(3)DmgRes(3)
02) --> Gravity Shield==> DmgRes(2)DmgRes(5)DmgRes(5)EndRdx(33)EndRdx(33)EndRdx(33)
04) --> Ebon Eye==> Dmg(4)Acc(7)EndRdx(7)
06) --> Swift==> Run(6)
08) --> Assault==> EndRdx(8)EndRdx(9)EndRdx(9)
10) --> Penumbral Shield==> DmgRes(10)DmgRes(11)DmgRes(11)EndRdx(31)EndRdx(31)EndRdx(31)
12) --> Shadow Blast==> Dmg(12)Acc(13)EndRdx(13)
14) --> Health==> Heal(14)Heal(15)Heal(15)
16) --> Twilight Shield==> DmgRes(16)DmgRes(17)DmgRes(17)EndRdx(25)EndRdx(29)EndRdx(29)
18) --> Shadow Cloak==> DefBuf(18)DefBuf(19)DefBuf(19)EndRdx(23)EndRdx(23)EndRdx(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Dark Matter Detonation==> Dmg(22)Acc(37)EndRdx(39)
24) --> Gravity Well==> Acc(24)EndRdx(39)Hold(40)
26) --> Tactics==> TH_Buf(26)TH_Buf(27)TH_Buf(27)EndRdx(34)EndRdx(34)EndRdx(34)
28) --> Maneuvers==> DefBuf(28)DefBuf(42)DefBuf(42)EndRdx(42)EndRdx(43)EndRdx(43)
30) --> Stygian Circle==> Heal(30)Heal(43)EndMod(45)EndMod(45)EndRdx(45)EndRdx(46)
32) --> Dark Extraction==> Rechg(32)EndRdx(39)Rechg(46)EndRdx(46)
35) --> Stygian Return==> Heal(35)Heal(36)Rechg(37)Rechg(37)
38) --> Eclipse==> Acc(38)Rechg(48)Rechg(48)EndMod(48)
41) --> Quasar==> Acc(41)EndRdx(50)EndRdx(50)
44) --> Essence Drain==> Acc(44)EndRdx(50)
47) --> Starless Step==> EndRdx(47)
49) --> Hurdle==> Jump(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Shadow Step==> Range(1)EndRdx(40)EndRdx(40)
01) --> Dark Sustenance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
10) --> Shadow Recall==> EndRdx(10)
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edit, Tactics can be swapped for leadership
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08) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(8)DefBuf(9)DefBuf(9)EndRdx(27)EndRdx(42)EndRdx(42)

26) --> Super Jump==> Jump(26)Jump(27)Jump(34)EndRdx(42)EndRdx(43)EndRdx(43)

28) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(28)EndRdx(34)EndRdx(34)

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OoOozy · 07-02-2006 03:36 PM

double, what do you suggest i slot the pet with?

double_EU · 07-02-2006 03:58 PM

1acc 3dmg 2recharge

@Double

Double Flame 50 fire/devices
Double Shade 50 tri-form warshade
Double Light 50 dwarf-human peacebringer
Double Control 50 earth/rad

OoOozy · 07-02-2006 04:16 PM

ok will do =)

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Name: oozyshade
Level: 50
Archetype: Warshade
Primary: Umbral Blast
Secondary: Umbral Aura
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01) --> Ebon Eye==> Dmg(1) Dmg(3) Acc(3) Dmg(15) Acc(17) EndRdx(17)
01) --> Absorption==> DmgRes(1)
02) --> Gravity Shield==> DmgRes(2) DmgRes(5) DmgRes(5) EndRdx(7)
04) --> Orbiting Death==> EndRdx(4) Dmg(37) Acc(43) Dmg(43)
06) --> Shadow Blast==> Dmg(6) Acc(7) Dmg(9) Acc(9) Dmg(13) EndRdx(15)
08) --> Hurdle==> Jump(8)
10) --> Penumbral Shield==> DmgRes(10) DmgRes(11) DmgRes(11) EndRdx(13)
12) --> Dark Matter Detonation==> Dmg(12) EndRdx(27) Acc(27) Acc(31) Dmg(50) Dmg(50)
14) --> Sunless Mire==> Acc(14) Rechg(25) Rechg(40)
16) --> Twilight Shield==> DmgRes(16) DmgRes(19) DmgRes(19) EndRdx(21)
18) --> Gravity Well==> Dmg(18) Acc(21) Dmg(29) EndRdx(29) Acc(31) Dmg(31)
20) --> Health==> Heal(20) Heal(23) Heal(37)
22) --> Stamina==> EndMod(22) EndMod(23) EndMod(37)
24) --> Stygian Circle==> EndMod(24) Rechg(25) EndMod(48)
26) --> Unchain Essence==> Dmg(26) Dmg(46) Dmg(46) Acc(48)
28) --> Inky Aspect==> EndRdx(28) Acc(42) Acc(43)
30) --> Gravity Emanation==> EndRdx(30) Dmg(34) Acc(36) Dmg(36) Acc(36) Dmg(46)
32) --> Dark Extraction==> Acc(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
35) --> Stygian Return==> Heal(35) Heal(48) Heal(50)
38) --> Eclipse==> Acc(38) DmgRes(39) DmgRes(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Quasar==> Dmg(41) Dmg(42) Dmg(42)
44) --> Combat Jumping==> EndRdx(44) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45)
47) --> Super Jump==> Jump(47)
49) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Shadow Step==> EndRdx(1)
01) --> Dark Sustenance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
10) --> Shadow Recall==> Range(10)
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that better?

Toxic_Torch · 07-02-2006 07:05 PM

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30) --> Gravity Emanation==> EndRdx(30) Dmg(34) Acc(36) Dmg(36) Acc(36) Dmg(46)

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You're not honestly expecting decent damage from GE, are you?

I suggest swapping the damage for Disorientation if you want it to be useful. Stacking it with Inky helps a lot against bosses. You should also drop the -End in Inky, it drains a lot more Health than End. Acc and Disorient are good for this power.

Recharge instead of Damage in Gravity Well may likely be more useful.

Slotting CJ for +Def is a waste of slots, you'll get 1% additional Def or so from those 3 slots. Since Kheldians are Res based this will change so little that you won't notice the difference, unless you make extensive logs before and after (think 100 hours of combat each).

I assume that you skip Nova and Dwarf deliberately. Personally I wouldn't want to miss out on their advantages, but others can't work with their disadvanages.

OoOozy · 07-02-2006 08:12 PM

ok ill take the slots off combat jumping, and slot GE as you mentioned. Although i just figured well its another aoe might aswell make it do a bit of damage, and im going all human so no forms im affraid. i have dwarf atm but im pretty sure tahts going to become obsolete when i get eclipse.

Toxic_Torch · 07-03-2006 09:09 AM

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ok ill take the slots off combat jumping, and slot GE as you mentioned. Although i just figured well its another aoe might aswell make it do a bit of damage, and im going all human so no forms im affraid. i have dwarf atm but im pretty sure tahts going to become obsolete when i get eclipse.

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Dwarf has one thing that Eclipse doesn't: Status Protection.

And GE does less damage than Brawl to each target.

Nefarious_EU · 07-03-2006 10:54 AM

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ok ill take the slots off combat jumping, and slot GE as you mentioned. Although i just figured well its another aoe might aswell make it do a bit of damage, and im going all human so no forms im affraid. i have dwarf atm but im pretty sure tahts going to become obsolete when i get eclipse.

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Dwarf has one thing that Eclipse doesn't: Status Protection.

And GE does less damage than Brawl to each target.

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and dont forget with dwarf you also got that nifty extra mire

"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

Amazing_Shnyet · 07-05-2006 10:14 AM

...and extra HP, and a pretty good self heal, and a Taunt.

...and some emotes look far funnier in Dwarf

OoOozy · 07-05-2006 04:02 PM

well, if im gonna have a form im gonna have to have both =P what are the benefits of nova then?

Toxic_Torch · 07-05-2006 07:40 PM

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well, if im gonna have a form im gonna have to have both =P what are the benefits of nova then?

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Higher base damage than Blasters, an additional +45% inherent damage buff (doesn't affect the ED/Enhancement calculation), non-suppressed Fly, long range attacks.

A well-slotted Nova is the essence of Flying Ranged Damage Dealing Mayhem. It just doesn't do anything else though.

No Stealth/Cloaking Device, no Acrobatics (for Hold protection), no immobilizes, limited to the 4 inherent attacks, almost no temporary powers work (the sword from Croatoa and the Vahz disease should work, not sure about any others). Self-buffing (such as Build Up or Sunless/Black Dwarf Mire) has to be done before you switch and the only toggle you can use while switched is the form.

Both forms also have an inherent endurance recovery buff that can be improved through slotting.

Amazing_Shnyet · 07-06-2006 06:35 AM

Well a lot of people use forms instead of Stamina. They each have an inherent Stamina which can be enhanced. It's not as potent as Stamina but allows you to stay in the toggle and gain End at a decent rate.
If you've been using Hasten and enough powers to suck your endurance dry, it's a pretty safe bet that you've annhiliated enough to pop out to Human for a quick Stygian.

I've gone to level 30 with a tri-form, and Im still learning. Having to decide which form is best for each situation is exhilerating, and definately taken the most effort ingame, which also makes it the most satisfying when it's done right.

I could use Nova form, hope i kill them before they kill me, then Stygian back to full health
Or I could stand in for the Tank and ease that aggro a little bit, I'll take that boss out of the equation for the team
Or i could stick to Human form and be a controller for the team
Or start in human, get buffed up to the roof, mez the group, change to Nova, blast until im blue in the face, and change to dwarf if i get scared.,

Then whereas the last option sounds the most effective, you're losing valuable DpS by the inconvenient activation time of changing forms. I just think there are 5 other AT's I could play if i wanted to stay in one form, Im gunna learn to use my forms best i can, and be the best dam Lobster/Crab i can be