I'll sign up for this while waiting for the regen nerf for my run :P
Hopefully WE will sign up too
ill join if you let me, half way to lvl 45, Mongose, and ill definately need a lackey
hopefully i can get to 45, so put me as a maybe
that is very good advice =)
(i was a member of the Union team that did it ;p)
I do think that you'll be damn lucky to get three on the first shot. It may only be Numina first go to be honest as the incoming damage is huge. But then next time without her damage and without Clear Mind and Fort she sticks on everyone you should get Sister Psyche and Manticore, and without their buffs/leadership and their damage, you know you've got it made =)
shadow switch lvl50 ninja/dark ding ding, round 3 please.
Any space for me? 
Total Inertia ice/Kinetics
thePhilosopher Martial Arts/Regen/Fire Scrapper
theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor
Champ count me in - got all the nukes and shivans stocked and you know I pull my own weight on any team.
DF
we could have murdered a kin ;p
i would reccomend one =)
How far did that attempt get other night?
Anyway lets hopefully make some inroads this time.
ok i have respec so i have the max acc debuffs i can get ready for when we do it, thats if i get picked.
Ok, team update:
1. Champion Brawler Lvl50 Brute (Dps - Agro)
2. Arch Revenent Lvl50 Brute (Dps - Agro)
3. Lyssa Lvl50 Stalker (Dps)
4. Dels Lvl50 MM (Buffs)
5. Ms Masochist Lvl50 Corruptor (Buffs - Debuffs)
6. Shadow Switch Lvl50 MM (Debuffs)
7. Total Inertia Lvl50 Corruptor (Buffs - Debuffs)
8.
Thanks to all who wanted to join but I really really would like to save the last spot for a Rad Corruptor, War Engine Zero was pretty good last time, could someone find out if he wants to try again, or any other lvl45+ Rad Corruptor?
@silva
Sure, I'm up for it. Let's hope it isn't so hot on Tuesday...
"I know 653 ways to kill a man. Fist to the face is #56."
ok, this means i dont have to spend all tomorow trying to get warbug nukes
Ok, Final team:
Ok, team update:
1. Champion Brawler Lvl50 Brute (Dps - Agro)
2. Arch Revenent Lvl50 Brute (Dps - Agro)
3. Lyssa Lvl50 Stalker (Dps)
4. Dels Lvl50 MM (Buffs)
5. Ms Masochist Lvl50 Corruptor (Buffs - Debuffs)
6. Shadow Switch Lvl50 MM (Debuffs)
7. Total Inertia Lvl50 Corruptor (Buffs - Debuffs)
8. WarEngine Zero Lvl50 Corrputor (Buffs - Debuffs)
Thanks to all who applied, now lets give this another shot.
Please also remember to have all ur reps set to vill before we start.
From now until tuesday night will give you all plenty of time to get your nukes and shivans, plus max ur enhancments max.
@silva
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that is very good advice =)
(i was a member of the Union team that did it ;p)
I do think that you'll be damn lucky to get three on the first shot. It may only be Numina first go to be honest as the incoming damage is huge. But then next time without her damage and without Clear Mind and Fort she sticks on everyone you should get Sister Psyche and Manticore, and without their buffs/leadership and their damage, you know you've got it made =)
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I think after the upcoming nerf, and with experience, two the first time could really work - remember, we didn't actually have a full set of nukes when we started. 
And it's always a good idea to be sure of who you're going to be going after next, just in case you're lucky and can take down a third.
My advice to the Defiant team would be this: don't give up if you have a few teamwipes, because we had a load, before we got things right. If you use up your nukes, and really find you need them? Go organise your team to get more, leaving someone in the mission to make sure it doesn't reset if need be. Get more Shivans if you run out and want more for the alpha strike.
Oh, and on the mission before, the VIndicators' base? We had an awful time the first go, because we just couldn't split them up, and their AoEs in a confined space were destroying us. We reset it, and suddenly they all happily came in ones and twos with snipe. 
I suspect that it may be best to just reset that mission and try again fresh if it doesn't work out at first - either their positions must have changed slightly, or after the first snipe didn't work, we ended up with them too close together and none of the later snipes worked as a result.
It's also possible that the Vindicators could be stormed in the same manner as the Freedom Phalanx in the last mission, but we were trying to save nukes and so didn't try it.
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that is very good advice =)
(i was a member of the Union team that did it ;p)
I do think that you'll be damn lucky to get three on the first shot. It may only be Numina first go to be honest as the incoming damage is huge. But then next time without her damage and without Clear Mind and Fort she sticks on everyone you should get Sister Psyche and Manticore, and without their buffs/leadership and their damage, you know you've got it made =)
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I think after the upcoming nerf, and with experience, two the first time could really work - remember, we didn't actually have a full set of nukes when we started. And it's always a good idea to be sure of who you're going to be going after next, just in case you're lucky and can take down a third.
My advice to the Defiant team would be this: don't give up if you have a few teamwipes, because we had a load, before we got things right. If you use up your nukes, and really find you need them? Go organise your team to get more, leaving someone in the mission to make sure it doesn't reset if need be. Get more Shivans if you run out and want more for the alpha strike.
Oh, and on the mission before, the VIndicators' base? We had an awful time the first go, because we just couldn't split them up, and their AoEs in a confined space were destroying us. We reset it, and suddenly they all happily came in ones and twos with snipe. I suspect that it may be best to just reset that mission and try again fresh if it doesn't work out at first - either their positions must have changed slightly, or after the first snipe didn't work, we ended up with them too close together and none of the later snipes worked as a result.
It's also possible that the Vindicators could be stormed in the same manner as the Freedom Phalanx in the last mission, but we were trying to save nukes and so didn't try it.
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The 2nd time we tried the vindicators we rushed them, didnt use any nukes or shivans, it seemed to work fine, nice debuffs from kinetics and rad helped alot.
@silva
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The 2nd time we tried the vindicators we rushed them, didnt use any nukes or shivans, it seemed to work fine, nice debuffs from kinetics and rad helped alot.
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I think that mission is largely going to come down to team make-up. I wouldn't say we really had an ideal team AT-wise, and we didn't have much luck taking on more than two of them at a time.
I certainly think next time I do it I'd want to try just rushing them, but for any group who finds that's not working, it's good to know that they do sometimes seem to be pullable.
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The 2nd time we tried the vindicators we rushed them, didnt use any nukes or shivans, it seemed to work fine, nice debuffs from kinetics and rad helped alot.
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I think that mission is largely going to come down to team make-up. I wouldn't say we really had an ideal team AT-wise, and we didn't have much luck taking on more than two of them at a time.
I certainly think next time I do it I'd want to try just rushing them, but for any group who finds that's not working, it's good to know that they do sometimes seem to be pullable.
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How did you manage to pull them?
We tried many different tactics on pulling but everytime they would all come.
@silva
Team Change from a promise made to Dark Figment prior to arranging this SF, sorry Lyssa, I forgot I promised DF and I dont like to break promises.
New Team Update:
1. Champion Brawler Lvl50 Brute (Dps - Agro)
2. Arch Revenent Lvl50 Brute (Dps - Agro)
3. Dark Figment Lvl50 Stalker (Dps)
4. Dels Lvl50 MM (Buffs)
5. Ms Masochist Lvl50 Corruptor (Buffs - Debuffs)
6. Shadow Switch Lvl50 MM (Debuffs)
7. Total Inertia Lvl50 Corruptor (Buffs - Debuffs)
8. WarEngine Zero Lvl50 Corrputor (Buffs - Debuffs)
Arch, sorry also, I know ur SG mates, and understand if u wanna drop too.
@silva
If he drops I bagsie his place! All know I'm a much better* brute anyway!
*note better = sucidal
now now, lets just see what happens first ok, I would prefer him not to drop, hes a good brute.
@silva
Got my shivans and nukes ready for tonight
Dont forget you can buy inspirations from the arena in St Martial when on a sf. 
thePhilosopher Martial Arts/Regen/Fire Scrapper
theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor
Ahh yes of course, completely forgot about that
@silva
i really hope people have their Shivans/Nukes, Anyone without them really should forfeit their slot.
Anyone who doesnt have thier shivans and nukes should definatly give thier space up.
@silva
Recluse SF
Ok, the next attempt will be on Tuesday 4th July, all meet at Lord Recluse in the main tower in Grandville at 7pm BST.
So far the team is:
1. Champion Brawler Lvl50 Brute (Dps - Agro)
2. Arch Revenent Lvl50 Brute (Dps - Agro)
3. Lyssa Lvl50 Stalker (Dps)
4. Dels Lvl50 MM (Buffs)
5. Ms Masochist Lvl50 Corruptor (Buffs - Debuffs)
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2 of the places I would like to reserve for a Rad Corruptor and a Kinetics Corruptor (So please sign up if your one of those ATs). The last space is open preferably to another with any type of useful debuffs but if none avalible then another of any AT will do.
Please make sure that EVERYONE has a full stock of 3 Warburg Nukes and a set of Bloody Bay Shivans.
Also make sure that you have a full tray of insps preferably Purples and Oranges and try to save them until the last mish if possible.
Another thing, if your SG Base has an Insperation Collector then please stock it up fully with Purples and Oranges, alternativley you could have someone you know or from your SG waiting in Grandville able to buy you insps when you need them.
If your base has a Temp Power Maker then for the last mission this could be useful as your able to make powers such as certain damage res temps and hastens... things like that, most if not all last for 15 mins each so only make them just before we go into the last mission, afterall every little helps.
If you have not already done so, please have all ur enhancements to the max.. Example: lvl50++ or lvl53 SOs.
On tactics, I think we should go with the tactics that someone from Union Server had posted on Defiant Villains which is this:
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Having just completed this, I'd advise taking the following action:
Buff Up with the Corrs you have;
Get half the team to spawn Shivans;
Chug Insps like candy: Reds, Purples, Oranges and Yellows;
Use 4 Bio nukes;
The other half of the team spawn Shivans under the FP to take Alpha;
Drop 4 Chem, then 4 Nukes on the FP;
Take Numina down, not only is she Psy and weak, she's their main buffer;
Take Psyche down, her Total Domination will wreck you if you let her go;
With luck, you might get to take out the third FPer, who should be Manticore. He has Leadership and does nasty things with his arrows.
>> At this point, you'll probably team-wipe. Don't sweat it. <<
Regroup, and get ready again.
Buff Up with the Corrs you have;
Get half the team to spawn Shivans;
Chug Insps like candy: Reds, Purples, Oranges and Yellows;
Use 4 Bio nukes;
The other half of the team spawn Shivans under the FP to take Alpha;
Drop 4 Chem, then 4 Nukes on the FP;
Take Citadel down, he's better off out of the picture whilst he's debuffed (he seems to lack AoE defence, from my observations, but I could be wrong);
Take BAB down, he should drop surprisingly swiftly;
Take Synapse down, as he does heavy, fast damage;
>> At this point, evaluate where you are - if most of the team is alive, keep going; if you're three men or more down, back off and regroup. <<
Take Statesman down, he throws you off your stride if you try to take Posi down first;
Take Posi out, he's surprisingly tough but will go down much more easily with all your focus on him.
Dance the Funky Monkey under Atlas.
The only way our team managed to make any inroads was with brute-force - trying to pull was a waste of time and effort. As far as general tips go, I'd advise not trying to rez people straight away if they drop - make the most of your buffs. Also, always stick to the original plan - don't split off to kill another hero unless you can take them out on your own, distracting people from their objective can and will lead to teamwipes.
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This tactic does seem pretty damn good, plus its from someone who has been on a team that has completed this already. However if anyone has any other suggestions then please let me know.
@silva