Stage's respec


Alvan

 

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well you're beloved union ill/ff troller is finally preparing a respec (gotta use one of those 4 i still got, dont i? ) now I7 is knocking on the door. I used stage purely PvE before, and though I fared well in PvP I wanna improve him a bit. Therefore I bring thee, stage's PvP respec! Basically I just altered my slots a bit and removed some bubbles to replace em with detention field and forcebolt. Btw, I kept group fly for hami-raiding purposes , this aint a pure pvp build yknow .

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Force Field
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01) --> Blind==> EndopExp(1)EndopExp(3)Hold(3)Rechg(5)Rechg(5)Rechg(37)
01) --> Personal Force Field==> DefBuf(1)DefBuf(7)DefBuf(7)
02) --> Deceive==> ConfDur(2)ConfDur(9)Acc(9)Acc(36)
04) --> Spectral Wounds==> Dmg(4)Dmg(11)Acc(11)Acc(13)Dmg(40)
06) --> Force Bolt==> Acc(6)Acc(13)EndRdx(46)
08) --> Flash==> Acc(8)Acc(15)Hold(15)Hold(17)Rechg(17)Rechg(19)
10) --> Swift==> Run(10)
12) --> Hover==> DefBuf(12)
14) --> Fly==> Fly(14)EndRdx(37)Fly(37)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Rechg(18)Rechg(19)Rechg(21)Dmg(36)Dmg(36)Dmg(43)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(23)
22) --> Dispersion Bubble==> DefBuf(22)DefBuf(23)DefBuf(25)EndRdx(25)EndRdx(40)EndRdx(46)
24) --> Group Invisibility==> Rechg(24)Rechg(27)Rechg(27)
26) --> Spectral Terror==> Fear(26)Fear(29)
28) --> Detention Field==> Rechg(28)Rechg(29)Rechg(31)Acc(31)Acc(34)
30) --> Hasten==> Rechg(30)Rechg(31)Rechg(33)
32) --> Phantasm==> Dmg(32)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)Acc(34)Acc(34)
35) --> Group Fly==> EndRdx(35)
38) --> Force Bubble==> EndRdx(38)EndRdx(39)Rechg(39)Rechg(39)EndRdx(40)
41) --> Indomitable Will==> Rechg(41)Rechg(42)Rechg(42)DefBuf(42)DefBuf(43)DefBuf(43)
44) --> Mind Over Body==> DmgRes(44)DmgRes(45)DmgRes(45)EndRdx(45)EndRdx(46)
47) --> Psionic Tornado==> Acc(47)Acc(48)Dmg(48)Dmg(48)
49) --> Mental Blast==> Acc(49)Acc(50)Dmg(50)Dmg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
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Comment away!


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

 

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you might wanna take fire epic instead of mind since you have a small mez protect of the forcefield set (at least I believe so )...it also works nice in combination with flash (fireball double damage and is perfect against enemies who have high psi res (robots:|) and with the consume power you can keep your end up 2..(just an opinion:P) (for pvp you might want primal (powerboost is great and it has very good single target damage)

now we are at pvp..flash can work but is very..very optional...might wanna take another power in that place (tp foe works great unless you are going perma force bubble)..fear can use some acc 2 in pvp..tho 1 slot should be enough..also group fly?...seems kinda useless..''might'' want 1 more end red 2..I find 3 slots in health also very good working..but thats just me I guess:P..slotting blind with 2hold/2 rech reds/2 acc is alo a better combo since your damage comes from critical, pets, and epics..(with power boost and 2 hold duration you can perma hold someone)..same for spectral wounds..2 acc 2 damage 2 recharge..tho you might wanna skip the second recharge for damage since you have an extra damage move past lvl 41...

nothing farther atm..bit tired will look at it later


 

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You really never learn, where are the 5 missing slots on brawl, rest and sprint?!
Also you need 6 slotted flurry(for recharge, obviously)in any build, no matter what.


 

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ji, when do YOU learn? YOU are the n00b, not me...

reason i took psi is cause in pvp psi is pretty good as it aint widely resisted unlike fire. Also it gives better than avg mez resistance combined with disp bubble. As said before, this aint a PURE PvP build, thats why I kept flash and group fly, as stage still is and will be mainly PvE. Though as the future of CoX seems to go to PvP I basically wanted to use the FF set a bit more PvP oriented, thats why i respecced Force Bolt and Detention Field back in even when I respecced outta em for PvE.

Might consider powerboost, but I found in RV that psi blasts can rip a villain to shreds in no time. Bots might resist it, but youll just take out the MM controlling them using forcebubble to divide em all.

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slotting blind with 2hold/2 rech reds/2 acc is alo a better combo [/combo]
how is that a better combo than 3 hold, 2 acc and 3 rech?

Thanks for the feedback though


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

 

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[how is that a better combo than 3 hold, 2 acc and 3 rech? )



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'' EndopExp(1) EndopExp(3) Hold(3) Rechg(5) Rechg(5) Rechg(37) ''
3 hold 2 acc 3 recharge?:P

it isn't a HO right?:P..or is it?:P (missed a bit out on the endoEXP:P)


 

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it isn't a HO right?:P..or is it?:P (missed a bit out on the endoEXP:P)

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Yep, accuracy/mez.

Well the short answer is to re-reroll Stage and get a proper secondary (says he who is now playing a /sonic ), but if you really want to stick with him, here are some suggestions:

- I agree with adding some accuracies to Spectral Terror, especially for PvP purposes, and if you can afford to, a range would be nice too.
- Even for PvE I now slot Flash 3 acc 3 recharge since mobs don't really need to be held for long. I would assume this slotting would also be better for PvP if you want to keep it.
- I find Swift/Hurdle a better combo for squishies, especially if you plan to PvP (and I think J finally agrees too ).
- I find 1 endred to be enough in MoB
- Are you sure you really want Mental Blast at 49 if you can't slot it properly? (and you can't fully slot Psi Tornado either). Not sure what to replace it with, but since Group Fly is mainly for Hami raids you could move it to the end and take something else instead.

Anyway, just some ideas...


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- I agree with adding some accuracies to Spectral Terror, especially for PvP purposes, and if you can afford to, a range would be nice too.

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I'll see, have to check what his current slotting for terror is cause it works well in pvp and pve

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- Even for PvE I now slot Flash 3 acc 3 recharge since mobs don't really need to be held for long. I would assume this slotting would also be better for PvP if you want to keep it.

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3 acc is a bit overkill imo,, even with the acc penalty of flash

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- I find Swift/Hurdle a better combo for squishies, especially if you plan to PvP (and I think J finally agrees too ).

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well I found health fits nicely with forcefields, as you dont get hit that often you regen health a great deal before you get hit again, plus i rarely jump with stage

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- I find 1 endred to be enough in MoB


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have to test that out, reason I added alot of endreds is cause forcefield toggles drain you of end like no tomorrow. Even with current slotting I easily run out of end if im not careful (2 endreds on all toggles)

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- Are you sure you really want Mental Blast at 49 if you can't slot it properly? (and you can't fully slot Psi Tornado either). Not sure what to replace it with, but since Group Fly is mainly for Hami raids you could move it to the end and take something else instead.


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well I took GF at that lvl cause I found no other power of interest to take at that lvl. Im pretty sure I want mental blast as even though I dont have max slotting, it still is an extra attack and does decent damage. I got this slotting on current stage and it does bout the same dmg as spec wounds without the healing back. I would only pick psi tornado and fully slot it if I had means of setting up proper AoE containment, but with only flash I dont see that happening.

But I'll look into the spec terror slotting, already busy with a mk II slotting which you can expect tonight once I get home


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

 

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it isn't a HO right?:P..or is it?:P (missed a bit out on the endoEXP:P)

Yep, accuracy/mez.


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Damn you:P


 

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Interesting build. I've tried something similar on test but just cant let go of Deflection and Insulation shields on live.

How do you find endurance usage? Why group rather than superior invis?


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right, i respecced him on live now, and swapped 1 recharge on forcebubble and 1 endmod on disp bubble for 2 accs on spec terror.

I must say it pained me a bit to get rid of insulation and deflection shield, but for PvP forcebolt and detention field are great substitutes. For PvE I found out on test that with the defbuffs in I7 disp bubble is a pretty sweet defense.

End usage.. well.. i rarely run out of end. Havin all those endmods slotted in the toggles I dont see my end drop even with fly + disp bubble + forcebubble + MoB running.

I picked group invis cause its a click rather than toggle. With hasten and recharge reductions in GI, I easily got it perma. Hell, I can even cast it again before it runs out. Due to it being click rather than toggle there is no risk of enemy detoggling it, plus an extra toggle means extra end usage. Used to have both sup invis and group invis on stage before respec, and i always preferred group to sup, only used sup in downtime of group and noticed I ran out of end pretty fast with all my other toggles running.

Course, with I7 changes to invis I need re-application if I attack. But most of times when I'm fighting its recharged before I finish the fight so that aint a prob.

Oh, and forcebolt just rules with hasten, its recharged while the animation aint even completely finishes . Commence detoggling!


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

 

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Well, looking at the build after feeling it on both sides of PvP, I must admit that it pretty much rocks. At some point my pavlovian response for hearing the Force Bolt sound became to look at my powers tray to see if something critical drop.

Very nice build, shame that the ST bubbles had to go to get everything in it. Issue 7 might bring some pain to teh awesomeness of Force bolt with the decreased toggledrops.


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it may decrease the chance of a drop per single use of bolt, but dont forget I can easily spam it on you

And yeah it was a shame bout the singletarget shields, especially with defbuffs comin in I7


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright