Just spotted that as I was considering which aux to place to boost the base control a tad, I have a holoprojector sat in my personal items tray along with a bunch of other stuff but decided that utlimately it wasn't worth placing at that cost.
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Not sure if it's WAI exactly, but... how come a Holoprojector or Spirit Advisor costs 97,000 and needs 7 bits of refined salvage - yet generates just 25 Control, when you can buy a Database or Bookshelf for just 8,000 more with no salvage faffing and gain 100 control?
Don't even get me started on Mega Monitors... what other things aren't worth the bother?
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You have perceived the same thing as I. Monitor bank is another pointless item, even worse than holo projector, iirc costing more salvage and producing less control.
I can only guess its because they are flashy and thus have to be over priced. I know they are overrated but have got them anyway - gone for style over substance so to speak.
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well, let me put some light over the situation.
holoprojector and monitor bank, seems to be useless items since they dont generate as much control/prestige as a data-base. however they consume alot less power. this giving u the option to build a control center that consumes minimum amount of energy (since u will soon find out when the base gets bigger that u need more energy as well) in my experience i will however endorce the data bases instead of holodisplay/monitor banks since u need alot more units to generate the same amount of control, therefore are forced to have a really big controlroom. I might change my oppinion later on when energy will become an issue, but so far we have one of the biggest bases and i recomend using the databases and get a turbine generator instead (5000 enregy) to compensate the usage of energy. (turbine generator needs to be unlocked and costs alot of salvage)
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turbine generator needs to be unlocked and costs alot of salvage
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You forgot to mention it cost shed loads of prestige to!
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while we're discussing base items has anyone found any aberrent or aeon tech?
The former is needed to make a generator energy curtain and the latter for a special capacitor... i haven't heard of anyone recieving this salvage though.
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Monitor bank is another pointless item, even worse than holo projector, iirc costing more salvage and producing less control.
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Of course, we shouldn't be having to use our salvage to make this item, since most SG's have gotten 5 SG badges and supposedly unlocked it as a permanent addition to the base editor... only it isn't there. 
IMO the whole base builing structure is so flawed and pointless and poorley implemented at the moment im not even bothering!!
1 Been said a thousand times but every thing cost too much.
2 The crafting salvage sytem is a con whats the point of making the item from your earned salvage then having to pay to place it from your earn prestiege.
3 Why do i keep falling through my base floor.
4 Why cant i place items in certain locations.
Maybe when if they introduce the small base thing they have breifly metion I may go back and have a second look.
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Monitor bank is another pointless item, even worse than holo projector, iirc costing more salvage and producing less control.
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Of course, we shouldn't be having to use our salvage to make this item, since most SG's have gotten 5 SG badges and supposedly unlocked it as a permanent addition to the base editor... only it isn't there.
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You must be thinking something else as monitor bank is a salvage item.
12 tech material
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85000 prestige
-10 energy
+20 control
EDIT: Mega monitor is different item.
That's the one, mega monitor's artwork is just a wall of monitors, getting them mixed up.
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That's the one, mega monitor's artwork is just a wall of monitors, getting them mixed up.
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Dunno about mega-monitor, but monitor bank is a wall of monitors 
Afaik mega monitor is an add-on you can put only on supercomputer, not normal main-frame
EDIT: removed ?
I used it during the beta, don't know if it was supercomputer aux only but I was using a supercomputer for control at the time, so it's entirely possible.
Yeah, I meant to say that I checked it and its supercomp now only, unless theres even bigger planetary supercomputers hidden somewhere.
Monitor bank you can put on normal main-frame.
many ppl complain about the cost of the base, but im prolly the only one that dont. Sure, base items are expensive, but you should remember that the idea wasnt to build a perfect base in 4 weeks. We have one of the most prosperous VG's on union and we have almost run out on things to build. we cant unlock the SG-badges fast enough to follow this development. in only 2 1/2 month that the bases been avaible, we earned enough prestige to build the 3rd baseplot for 3.3 mill. all workbenches, 2 telepads, raid teleporter, IoP room inc. defenses, 2nd energy room, 2nd control room, turbine generator and more... sure it takes us a week or 2 to gather prestige to buy the real expensive stuff, but the bases arent supposed to be completed in 2-3 months.. this is a lifetime project meant to be an always evergoing project, never to be complete. if every SG with more than 20 members successfully could build everything possible in base withing 4 months, i wouldnt even wanna bother.. no fun if everyone has it all.
Just keep working on it, and you will soon see that the costs for bases arent worse than the amount of healing u need to do to earn the 2nd SG-healing badge
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many ppl complain about the cost of the base, but im prolly the only one that dont. Sure, base items are expensive, but you should remember that the idea wasnt to build a perfect base in 4 weeks. We have one of the most prosperous VG's on union and we have almost run out on things to build. we cant unlock the SG-badges fast enough to follow this development. in only 2 1/2 month that the bases been avaible, we earned enough prestige to build the 3rd baseplot for 3.3 mill. all workbenches, 2 telepads, raid teleporter, IoP room inc. defenses, 2nd energy room, 2nd control room, turbine generator and more... sure it takes us a week or 2 to gather prestige to buy the real expensive stuff, but the bases arent supposed to be completed in 2-3 months.. this is a lifetime project meant to be an always evergoing project, never to be complete. if every SG with more than 20 members successfully could build everything possible in base withing 4 months, i wouldnt even wanna bother.. no fun if everyone has it all.
Just keep working on it, and you will soon see that the costs for bases arent worse than the amount of healing u need to do to earn the 2nd SG-healing badge
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We are still at 10% of the bar to the first healing badge and have been saving last 3 weeks for the first plot upgrade.
Btw, last I checked Goonies was about middle of the top100 earned prestige SGs list on defiant.
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while we're discussing base items has anyone found any aberrent or aeon tech?
The former is needed to make a generator energy curtain and the latter for a special capacitor... i haven't heard of anyone recieving this salvage though.
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iirc aberrant tech is tech you get for completing indoor pvp mishes in either BB or sirens, cant remember which
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Aye 2nd healing badge is a doozy all right. Have to say tho, long as you keep most of you members in SG mode, you will see that prestige pouring in. Just wish the SG registrar counted base plot cost in the prestige total......oh well.
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1 Been said a thousand times but every thing cost too much.
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Well answered by Dr_Death, above.
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2 The crafting salvage sytem is a con whats the point of making the item from your earned salvage then having to pay to place it from your earn prestiege.
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Because, in theory at least, crafted items are 'better' in some way than the standard ones - hence, you need Salvage in addition to Prestige to make them.
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3 Why do i keep falling through my base floor.
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Sounds like a bug to me. Is it just one spot? If so, please stand as close to it as possible and send a /bug report. If it's hard to pin down, please wait until it happens and then send a /bug report.
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4 Why cant i place items in certain locations.
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Without more details it's hard to be sure, but I'm guessing this is due to the code that prevents areas of the base being 'blocked' by other items. This is mainly intended as a balance mechanic for base raiding - otherwise it would be fairly easy to make an inpenetrable base.
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4 Why cant i place items in certain locations.
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Without more details it's hard to be sure, but I'm guessing this is due to the code that prevents areas of the base being 'blocked' by other items. This is mainly intended as a balance mechanic for base raiding - otherwise it would be fairly easy to make an inpenetrable base.
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Some items have a 'face' side that you can't place against a wall for example. I remember for instance holo display has a 'face' even though it looks like a circular item with all sides equal. I realized this when trying to make a conference table with holo display at the center of table.
well i have a full load of aberrant tech....if you are on defiant and wanna do a trade sometime. i'll take spider eyes, arachnoid venom, or exotic alloy 
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Just wish the SG registrar counted base plot cost in the prestige total......oh well.
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This was an unknown fact to me... is this the reason to why some SGs suddenly drop in the 'Top 100' list? I noticed several SGs has dropped rapidly in the stats for to them unknown reasons... though we gotten 2 baseplots so far and havent experienced any changes though.
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ust wish the SG registrar counted base plot cost in the prestige total......oh well.
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Can a red name confirm this? I suspected this seeing that my sg ranking has nose dived but when speaking to others they have not noticed or been affected.
Awhile ago I heard about prestige that seemed to go missing (in sg ranking)and now I know for a fact that it has happened to E.V.I.L. as I have more prestige from figures in the super group tab bit then the sg registrar guy.
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ust wish the SG registrar counted base plot cost in the prestige total......oh well.
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Can a red name confirm this? I suspected this seeing that my sg ranking has nose dived but when speaking to others they have not noticed or been affected.
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I can confirm that, last I tested it, the Prestige spent on a plot isn't counted in the SG registrar's list. I'm pretty sure this is a display bug, and am checking to make sure.
Cheers for sort of clearing that up. I guess being low is now the new high
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Not sure if it's WAI exactly, but... how come a Holoprojector or Spirit Advisor costs 97,000 and needs 7 bits of refined salvage - yet generates just 25 Control, when you can buy a Database or Bookshelf for just 8,000 more with no salvage faffing and gain 100 control?
Don't even get me started on Mega Monitors... what other things aren't worth the bother?
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