Badge numbers for the removed badges of i15

Does anyone have a listing of the /settitle badge numbers for the i14 Mission Architect badges that were removed in i15? I checked badge-hunter.com, but the only badges they list with their settitle numbers are the gladiators.

The badges, while no longer being listed, are still possibly in the game at some level. I know that my character "William Shakespeare", who started using the Bard badge and was in fact rolled because that badge was out there, has kept the badge as a title even if it no longer is listed.

I am also curious to see if post-i15 characters get the account wide badges they would have gotten as well.

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I'd like to now this as well. I still have Bard on one of my toons too, and I was looking forward to changing the title back and forth between Bard and Shifter, since his standard badge title was Shifter before.

Can't do that without the numbers though. Hopefully someone knows.

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@Johnstone & @Johnstone 2
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City Info Tracker has the /settitle numbers for the existing badges. They are in order, so presumably the missing numbers are for the badges that have been removed.

Edit: I tried it, and it didn't work. So if those are the /settitle numbers, then the badges are well and truly gone.

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That makes me sad, now I can never change my badge title on my Scrapper unless I want to lose the Bard title forever...

Thanks for the link though.

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@Johnstone & @Johnstone 2
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Actually most people don't realize that the /settitle numbers are -not- permanently assigned to badges when they're introduced into the game. It's very counter-intuitive if you ask me but apparently that doesn't matter to the Devs.

What I mean by "not permanently assigned" is that when new badges are added to the game they are typically shoved somewhere into the 'middle' of the existing list of badges which for some reason forces any badges behind them to have their /settitle numbers incremented. For example if a new badge X is added the Devs might assign it the /settitle number 300. But that means a badge that used to have the /settitle number 310 is now going be shifted up to 311, 311 would now be 312, and so on.

In practical terms what this means is that since the addition of the I15 arena badges many of the old /settitle numbers have already been shifted upward. I know this because I've been using the /settitle command with my costume change binds for years and I basically have to update them every time the Devs add new badges, including I15. My guess is that even if the MA badges had not been removed their /settitle numbers would have likely been different between I14 and I15 regardless.

Interestingly enough even though the Devs technically 'deleted' most of the MA badges the /settitle numbers for many other badges once again -increased- in value in I15. This tells me that even though the MA badges were striped from live play they are still in the system "under the hood" so to speak ready to be used again I suppose. I guess we'll see if they ever get recycled at some point.

I think the only reason some people have managed to keep old badge titles is that the system doesn't dynamically recheck those settings unless you manually change them. A person with Bard is going to keep it until they change it. The Bard badge is likely still buried in the .pigg files, but at this point it has been locked from live play AND its /settitle number is likely different as well (as much as the /settitle number for a locked badge means anything anyway). People are keeping these old titles the same way people keep old costume items - as long as you don't change them you still have them. This leads me to conclude that whenever the Devs 'delete' things they probably never actually -remove- those things completely from the .pigg files.

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