Geforce8400 vs geforce6200
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Gamma_Guardian,
Posted on: 2009-07-13 03:27 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
The 4300 is a rather old machine. Specs:
http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...cs.htm#1101572
The top of the line would have been a 2.0Ghz P4 single core at 400Mhz FSB, 1MB memory maximum, and a 250watt power supply. This last being the death knell for any substantial video card upgrading. Well, that and the AGP video card slot.
My money would be going toward a new computer with a dual core CPU, 4G of memory and a nice 9600, 260, 9800 something like that.
However, if you are bound and determined to use that Dell freebie, then the 8400 is the slam dunk. I'm going to assume (which we all know what can happen with that) that the 8400 will be ok with the rather small 250 watt power supply, or Dell wouldn't offer it to you... it takes up to 38 watts to run it, so I'd guess it'll be ok... ish.
Otherwise, the 6200, because in my opinion, switching from NVidia to any other brand wouldn't be a great idea. You'll still have to upgrade/change the drivers, but it's a little easier when you don't change brands.
Of course, the other problem is the CPU. Single core... and which speed do you have? You're going to need every bit of the 2.0Ghz P4... if you don't have that one... I'm not terribly sure I'd bother spending the money/'money' on the machine for Co* these days.
Dunno if that helps, but there ya go. Good luck!
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Yeah, no money for a new computer.
I had a very large gift card from dell so I want to upgrade it.
The only out of pocket I spent was 2 $35 dollar 512mb ram sticks which brought my comp up to 1gb.
Already its running alot better.
Remeber this isnt my main computer at all. Its just that my main is currently uber sick and I need something to be able to log in and spend some free time.... Of course i wont be able to do my comics or anything... 
The thing that I was looking at is this:
the 8400 is pci which i hear is slower than agp. 6200 is agp...
Someone told me because of that interface, there isnt that much of a difference.
I also had an ATI x1650 pro recommended to me?
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You do not have a PCI Express slot. Do not be confused. You *must* get an AGP slot, or a PCI (not PCI Express) card. I don't think they make a PCI that high. Be sure what you're getting.
PCI < AGP < PCI Express as far as performance goes, or so the idea is.
Only problem with getting any ATI card is that they seem to have more issues running Co*. Lots of tweaking. I'd never run one, and have limited information regarding them. However, check this chart out:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/d...DMark06-v1.0.2,582.html
Granted it's from 2006, but it has the 6200 on it.
Your biggest issue is the power supply. It just hasn't got enough oomph. Be trying to haul a loaded tractor trailer with a scooter. The x1650 requires a bigger power supply.
The choices are just too thin. I don't think I'd bother unless i could get a higher wattage power supply for the unit, at which point, there are better choices such as a NVidia 6800 or 7600, and even ATI offerings.
However, given what ya got... I don't know. Anything will be better, but all of these are 'sub gaming' cards in the eyes of many enthusiasts for today's games... Given the pricing list at newegg.com for agp video cards... I *might* go for the 2600, but there's that ATI thing...
I dunno if that helps or not. The arena is too small for a great answer, IMO.
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I keep going back and forth ><
Oh and the 8400 is pci, not express. That change you opinion at all?
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Yes, the PCI isn't as fast a bus as the AGP, which will slow load times, and if it has to swap textures that will slow FPS a little here and there too.
And... the 2600 is supposedly the better of the two, so there ya go:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24...-upgrade-issue
I think your decision is now made... 
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Had a few people tell me that the 6200 agp trades off to the 8400 as far as speed since they are 2 gen apart.
This true?
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Yes, the PCI isn't as fast a bus as the AGP, which will slow load times, and if it has to swap textures that will slow FPS a little here and there too.
And... the 2600 is supposedly the better of the two, so there ya go:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24...-upgrade-issue
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Cant I not do that since the 2600 would take too much power to run?
I think your decision is now made...
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6200 vs 8400: Seems to be quite a bit of debate. The 8400 will have more features, but there is plenty of discussion googling it that the 6200 works better. Go figure.
re: too much power... I present you your own first post quote:
"radion 2600 256mb (something about a 28mb interface and media stuff and somehow she said the word TV programy thing in there with its extra stuff)"
So I would assume the answer to the power issue is 'no.', or they wouldn't have offered it as an option.
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This is gonna sound a little snippy, but it's not. Sorry if you hear it that way:
MY decision, if we want to get into that, is do nothing to this machine... it's not worth the expenditure of money, time and effort... matter of fact, I'm kind of thinking I myself have taken too much time trying to help because it's just not the kind of machine I'd be running Co* with at all.
My decision is to buy another machine, because it's going to take too much to get this one to 'merely adequate' state.
So, at this point, you're second guessing yourself and me and probably anyone else who comes in, so you just need to get something and move on if you're bound and determined to do something. Whatever it is, good luck with it! I'm sure anything will be better than the GF2 you got now.
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I have to chime in and agree with houtex.
I was tempted to respond to this thread earlier, but was held back by the extreme futility of trying to upgrade such an old machine with a PCI card of all things.
If the gift card doesn't expire, hold onto it.
If it does expire, you'd honestly be better off buying a printer or something.
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6200 vs 8400: Seems to be quite a bit of debate. The 8400 will have more features, but there is plenty of discussion googling it that the 6200 works better. Go figure.
re: too much power... I present you your own first post quote:
"radion 2600 256mb (something about a 28mb interface and media stuff and somehow she said the word TV programy thing in there with its extra stuff)"
So I would assume the answer to the power issue is 'no.', or they wouldn't have offered it as an option.
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This is gonna sound a little snippy, but it's not. Sorry if you hear it that way:
MY decision, if we want to get into that, is do nothing to this machine... it's not worth the expenditure of money, time and effort... matter of fact, I'm kind of thinking I myself have taken too much time trying to help because it's just not the kind of machine I'd be running Co* with at all.
My decision is to buy another machine, because it's going to take too much to get this one to 'merely adequate' state.
So, at this point, you're second guessing yourself and me and probably anyone else who comes in, so you just need to get something and move on if you're bound and determined to do something. Whatever it is, good luck with it! I'm sure anything will be better than the GF2 you got now.
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Its not alot of time and effort. Its pretty much a free card since I have the gift card for dell. There is nothing else to do with the machine besides the gcard.
Another machine, like i said, is out of the question. I have zero money. Its impossible, out of the question.
This is my only option. So its not a waist to me, but thank you for telling me that it is.
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I was trying to find power information about the 8400. I saw the 6200s power is recommended at 250 w.
My computer, i think, has a 250 w power thing.
I cant seem to find the power use or reccommendation for 8400.
Anyone able to help with that?
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I posed a link to your tech specs above. About 3/4 the way down is the power supply is listed as a 250 watt. Assuming you've done nothing to the machine, that's what you have.
http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/produc.../8400GS.aspx#2
The specification tab shows that 300 watt is required for this card.
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Okay so I am trying to buy a new graphics card for my older computer (espeically since my newer one has a super bad virus that i cant seem to get rid of...)
My older comp here is a Dell Dimension 4300.
It curently has a Geforce 2 series in it.
The comp only has 512mb in it right now, ill be upgrading it to 1G (the max for it).
1.besides upgrading the ram and the vid card, what else can i do?
2. What is the best graphics card for a computer with only 1g ram?
I am not looking for the top of the line, just the best this computer can get.
I was speaking with a rep at dell (i have a gift card which is the only reason I am buying it from them cuz I know its normally more expensive) and they listed off alot. I'll put them in the list here.
HD profession radion (not sure any more info on)
Geforce 5200 128mb
Xtasy Radion 9550 128mb
radion 2600 256mb (something about a 28mb interface and media stuff and somehow she said the word TV programy thing in there with its extra stuff)
Geforce 6200 256mb
and the final one is the
Geforce 8400 512mb or 256mb
Which is the better? My main game is City of Heroes but every once in awhile I play other games. I plan to try the KOTOR mmo and possibly CO and other MMOs in the future (never leaving coh though :P ) and so I'd like something thatll at least hit around there minimum or above.
Any advice and help would be greatly appriciated as i am not tech savvy at all and any review i look at leaves me with the same unsure feeling I had when i started out.
-Sin
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