Text Rendering Lag?
By
Texas Justice,
Posted on: 2009-06-25 14:11 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
I'd recommend starting with Zloth's ++ Common Solutions & Posting Guidelines ++ thread that is stickied in this forum.
Secondly, post a log from running CoH Helper as it will give information about your system and the CoH installation and settings.
Thirdly, post a log from running HijackThis. This will show what else is going on on your computer while you are playing CoH.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Here's CoHelper.... as I mentioned, I have tried various graphics and audio settings so what is shown below is what I happen to be set at right now. I have also tried it with very minimal settings and it only has a minor affect on the minimum framerate I see in combat when I use Full Auto on a spawn of 10 enemies. I've also tried both of my onboard LAN connectors, which are from different manufacturers and thus running different drivers, just to see if maybe it was a LAN driver problem. While I see a spike in packet times on /netgraph during Full Auto, I think that's related to my client lagging rather than the actual trip times of the packets involved.
---System information gathered by CoH Helper version 0.1.1.7---
DxDiag gathered at June 25, 2009 20:31 (-05:00)
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: P5K Deluxe
BIOS: BIOS Date: 06/15/07 10:58:07 Ver: 08.00.12
Central Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2048MB
.Net Memory Report: 1676MB out of 2047MB available
Page File: 3573MB (366MB currently in use)
C Drive: (WDC WD1500ADFD-00NLR1) 19958MB out of 29996MB (66%) free
D Drive: (WDC WD1500ADFD-00NLR1) 97979MB out of 101065MB (96%) free
E Drive: (Memorex 52MAX 325216AJv2) zero-size drive
Windows directory location: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DirectX Diag version: 5.03.2600.5512 (32-bit version)
Display Notes: No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor's Max Resolution: 1600,1200
Video Device Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Manufacturer / Chip: NVIDIA / GeForce GTX 260
Video Memory: 896.0 MB
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.8618
Driver Date: 6/10/2009 6:03:00 AM
Driver Language: English
Sound Device Description: SB X-Fi Audio [EC00]
Driver File: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1368
Driver Date: 10/8/2008 1:21:50 AM
WMI Information
Motherboard Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Motherboard Model: (empty)
Motherboard Product: P5K Deluxe
Motherboard Version: Rev 1.xx
BIOS Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Name: BIOS Date: 06/15/07 10:58:07 Ver: 08.00.12
BIOS Version: A_M_I_ - 6000715
BIOS Release: 20070615000000.000000+000
Registry Information for Current User
Resolution: 1280x720
3D Resolution: 1280x720 (Not using renderscale)
Full Screen: Yes
Maximized: No
Screen Position: 0, 0
Refresh Rate: 60Hz
Vertical Sync Enabled: Yes
Physics Quality: High
Maximum Particles: 20274
Max Particle Fill? 10.000
Physics Card Enabled: No
Anti-aliasing: None
Anisotropic Filtering: None
Texture LOD Bias: Smooth
Water Effects: High Quality
Bloom: 1.000 (turned off)
Depth of Field Enabled: No
Desaturation Effects (Sepia) Enabled: No
Shader Detail: High
World Texture Level: Very High
Character Texture Level: Very High
World Detail Level (Vis_Scale): 0.902
Entity Detail Level: 1.000
Shadows Enabled: Yes
Gamma Correction: 1.000
Geometry Buffers (VBOs) Enabled: Yes
Suppression of Extra Player FX Enabled: No
Suppression of FX When Camera Close Enabled: Yes
Close Suppression Range: 3.000
Show Advertisements: Yes
Audio Mode: Compatiblity
3D Audio: Yes
FX Sound Volume: 0.245
Music Sound Volume: 0.202
Show Advanced Graphics Options: Yes
Overall Graphics Quality: 0.600
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: Unknown bytes/second
Current Game Version: 18.20090422.5T
Installation Directory: d:\Games\CoH
Mod files in the Data directory
No modifications found
Villains: Annie Alias, Dr. Amperical, Shade Golem, Knight Marksman
Heroes: The Clockwork Mime, Soccerpunch, The Fissioneer, Samurai Houston, Oversteer
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Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 8:29:06 PM, on 6/25/2009
Platform: Windows XP SP3 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18702)
Boot mode: Normal
Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\BitDefender\BitDefender Update Service\livesrv.exe
C:\Program Files\BitDefender\BitDefender 2009\vsserv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Creative\Shared Files\CTAudSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\msco rsvw.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTHELPER.EXE
C:\Program Files\BitDefender\BitDefender 2009\bdagent.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Creative\Volume Panel\VolPanlu.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTXFIHLP.EXE
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\nHancer\nHancer.exe
C:\Program Files\BitDefender\BitDefender 2009\seccenter.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CTXFISPI.EXE
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
O3 - Toolbar: BitDefender Toolbar - {381FFDE8-2394-4f90-B10D-FC6124A40F8C} - C:\Program Files\BitDefender\BitDefender 2009\IEToolbar.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTHelper] CTHELPER.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BDAgent] "C:\Program Files\BitDefender\BitDefender 2009\bdagent.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BitDefender Antiphishing Helper] "C:\Program Files\BitDefender\BitDefender 2009\IEShow.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [UpdReg] C:\WINDOWS\UpdReg.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [VolPanel] "C:\Program Files\Creative\Volume Panel\VolPanlu.exe" /r
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTxfiHlp] CTXFIHLP.EXE
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [nHancer] "C:\Program Files\nHancer\nHancer.exe" /tray
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/windowsu...?1245869519811
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/microsof...?1245872035375
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - http://fpdownload2.macromedia.com/ge...nt/swflash.cab
O16 - DPF: {F6ACF75C-C32C-447B-9BEF-46B766368D29} (Creative Software AutoUpdate Support Package) - http://ccfiles.creative.com/Web/soft...5108/CTPID.cab
O23 - Service: BitDefender Arrakis Server (Arrakis3) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\BitDefender\BitDefender Arrakis Server\bin\Arrakis3.exe
O23 - Service: Creative Audio Engine Licensing Service - Creative Labs - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Creative Labs Shared\Service\CTAELicensing.exe
O23 - Service: Creative Audio Service (CTAudSvcService) - Creative Technology Ltd - C:\Program Files\Creative\Shared Files\CTAudSvc.exe
O23 - Service: BitDefender Desktop Update Service (LIVESRV) - BitDefender SRL - C:\Program Files\Common Files\BitDefender\BitDefender Update Service\livesrv.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (nvsvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: BitDefender Virus Shield (VSSERV) - BitDefender S. R. L. - C:\Program Files\BitDefender\BitDefender 2009\vsserv.exe
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End of file - 4736 bytes
Villains: Annie Alias, Dr. Amperical, Shade Golem, Knight Marksman
Heroes: The Clockwork Mime, Soccerpunch, The Fissioneer, Samurai Houston, Oversteer
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Found it!
For some reason now having the chat log enabled is causing me to lag severely whenever I do something that generates a lot of messages. That's why /cmdlist was freezing me for 5-8 seconds or so. With chat log disabled, I experience no lag at all using /cmdlist or Full Auto. Stays rock steady at 60fps now.
Weird. I tried deleting the chat log file. It was 2MB at the time. Made a very slight difference but still was generating lag in combat and with /cmdlist. So even a clean file wasn't helping.
When I get a chance I guess I will take another look at chipset drivers... maybe see if I am having a file access speed problem. The AV software isn't *supposed* to be scanning while I am gaming but.... I dunno.
Villains: Annie Alias, Dr. Amperical, Shade Golem, Knight Marksman
Heroes: The Clockwork Mime, Soccerpunch, The Fissioneer, Samurai Houston, Oversteer
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Try adding your CoH directory to the exclusion list in BitDefender. It could be that BD is scanning the text coming into the logfile, and causing the slowdown.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Okay this is a weird one. I just did a full system wipe and reinstall of XP, got it all patched up to SP3 and all the critical updates. Have Bitdefender AV going (in game mode when I'm full screen in CoH). Latest drivers for the X-Fi gamer and GTX260. Clean install of CoH from the ground up with the updater (slooow download and all).
Now, I'm seeing something I didn't see before. Regardless of graphics settings, AA, AF, vsync, texture qualities, world/character details, water, etc.etc. I am getting severe lag whenever I do something that produces a lot of text... or so it seems. If I do a /cmdlist for example, my client literally freezes for a good 8 seconds or so before displaying the output. Actually... that happens whether I have a window open that *can* display the output or not. But I first noticed the problem with my AR corruptor's Full Auto power. Doing that to a spawn of 10 cimerorans at the wall sinks my framerate all the way from pegged at 60fps to about 3fps. I can turn physics off, particles to 100... nothing. I've tried zeroing the volume of sound and music to eliminate audio but I'm not sure if that actually disables sound for real. Anyone know?
Casting about for likely culprits. Same machine and hardware before I wiped it did not have this problem. I can post more info but I thought I'd see if anyone had encountered this problem before first. As I said, it's a clean machine and I'd expect any background shenanigans to slow everything down but I can cruise around Grandville at 60fps. This happens very specifically only when I do stuff that seems to display a lot of text.
Villains: Annie Alias, Dr. Amperical, Shade Golem, Knight Marksman
Heroes: The Clockwork Mime, Soccerpunch, The Fissioneer, Samurai Houston, Oversteer
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