/WP Boss Strategies


BrokenPrey

 

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I have mostly played Regen but have messed around with sr and haven't run into this before.

What do WP scrappers do when they run into a boss ? For regen I would hit dp, ih, or mog and go kick some butt, but what do you do for wp ? Right now I am just making sure I carry around a few more purples instead of blues for the bosses but I'm wondering if there is something I am missing.


 

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Well with my /WP scrapper I do nothing just run up and kill the boss. The boss doesn't do much to me because I'm killing it so fast. Also if your having to pop DP, IH, or MoG to kill a boss you might want to look at your build. A boss is nothing for a scrapper just a foe with a little more hit points


"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"- Chesty Puller US Marine Corps

 

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I mostly run solo unyielding missions. I'm not talking about an oj boss standing all alone.


 

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I mostly run solo unyielding missions. I'm not talking about an oj boss standing all alone.

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Beat it up first? Everything else around you should be there to fuel RttC.


 

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Charge in, kill everything.

If for some reason that isn't sufficient, well, go after the boss or lieutenants first, leaving minions for Rise to the Challenge buffing. Make sure you're in the middle of the spawn, not off to the side plinking away. Purples are your go to inspiration of choice, and should be much more effective than greens overall. If that STILL isn't doing the trick, you may want to adjust your build for a higher level of survivability, as unyielding really shouldn't be an issue, at least post SOs.


"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Okay so other then the guy that can solo the Statesman TF, does anyone else have an ideas for WP for tougher encounters.

btw this is a lvl 24 wp scrapper


 

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Charge in, kill everything.

If for some reason that isn't sufficient, well, go after the boss or lieutenants first, leaving minions for Rise to the Challenge buffing. Make sure you're in the middle of the spawn, not off to the side plinking away. Purples are your go to inspiration of choice, and should be much more effective than greens overall. If that STILL isn't doing the trick, you may want to adjust your build for a higher level of survivability, as unyielding really shouldn't be an issue, at least post SOs.

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Right now purples are doing the trick, and I don't have rttc yet but I was curious if there was another way.


 

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Okay so other then the guy that can solo the Statesman TF, does anyone else have an ideas for WP for tougher encounters.


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I never said that, but way to go. Again as Werner said this shouldn't be a problems past SO. Use RttC sorry I didn't yes kill the boss first to so evey one else buffs your RttC. Rttc is one of the best power that Scarpper can have use it.

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Right now purples are doing the trick, and I don't have rttc yet but I was curious if there was another way.

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you should have RttC by lvl 16 there is no reason not to have it. I'm not trying to be rude but it is the best power of the set and will keep you alive. Reason for this is your don't need to work on Stamina with /WP because you have Quick Recovery you can get a lot of your power when you need them.


"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"- Chesty Puller US Marine Corps

 

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I took a look and I do have it, but I did go for Stamina first, so it isn't slotted up yet.

But it sounds like the only thing that can help wp with the alpha strikes and such is to use purples


 

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But it sounds like the only thing that can help wp with the alpha strikes and such is to use purples


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yes the Alpha Stikes can be bad for /WP and purples are the best for it. But after you get all of your /WP powers and slotted it should be a lot better


"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"- Chesty Puller US Marine Corps

 

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I took a look and I do have it, but I did go for Stamina first, so it isn't slotted up yet.

But it sounds like the only thing that can help wp with the alpha strikes and such is to use purples

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you didnt need to get stamina first. at 20 you get a power far superior to stamina. stamina can be pushed off.

by level 30 you should have all of the powers in your secondary. this is because as you hit the 30+ game missions and enemy factions get tougher and you'll need the protection of heightened senses and that resistance one. if your primary has a skippable 32, i then recommend going boxing/tough/weave for 32/35/38. having all of that and a 4 or 5 power attack chain by 41 will make the 40's less of a pain.

i never had to think about a boss fight on any scrapper post so's, but i tend to not build t hem on the fly either or worry too much about 'concepts'.


 

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As BrokenPrey says, Pick up Rise to the Challenge as soon as you can. It's pretty much the set-defining power for Willpower, and its absence is probably the reason for your trouble.

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Okay so other then the guy that can solo the Statesman TF, does anyone else have an ideas for WP for tougher encounters.

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Let's try some analogies.

Financial Advice - "You're a self-made millionaire, so I don't want your advice on how to make money. I'll just ask my friend on welfare how to get rich quick."

Car Trouble - "You're a professional mechanic, so I don't want your opinion on what the problem is. My next door neighbor changes her own oil. I'll ask her instead."

See the problem?

Also, it's not like we only play twinked-out level 50s and have forgotten what it's like to level up. I level up a LOT of characters. I just don't usually have PROBLEMS with them, because I understand how this game works and how to make a strong character for cheap.


"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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It sounds like a respec will be needed soon, but I just went with my old standard of get stamina as quick as possible, but other then that I had no plan or build in mind. I just noticed as I fight more bosses that their alphas tear into my little wp scrapper.


 

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But it sounds like the only thing that can help wp with the alpha strikes and such is to use purples


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yes the Alpha Stikes can be bad for /WP and purples are the best for it. But after you get all of your /WP powers and slotted it should be a lot better

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In the long run, Willpower has high hit points, good resists, and good defense. Alphas will eventually be no problem because it takes too much to take you out quickly. I've heard that some people have problems AFTER the alpha, where their hit points don't recover fast enough to deal with the rest of the incoming damage. I haven't found that to be a problem myself, but if it is a problem, purples are probably the best choice to resolve it.


"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
Videos of Other Stupid Scrapper Tricks

 

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It sounds like a respec will be needed soon, but I just went with my old standard of get stamina as quick as possible, but other then that I had no plan or build in mind. I just noticed as I fight more bosses that their alphas tear into my little wp scrapper.

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Sounds like you need to actually check to see what powers your secondary actually has before you start defaulting to basic strategies. QR is bigger than Stamina. RttC is retardedly awesome (just like every scrapper level 16 power). People really need to actually learn the power sets.


 

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It sounds like a respec will be needed soon, but I just went with my old standard of get stamina as quick as possible, but other then that I had no plan or build in mind. I just noticed as I fight more bosses that their alphas tear into my little wp scrapper.

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Sounds like you need to actually check to see what powers your secondary actually has before you start defaulting to basic strategies. QR is bigger than Stamina. RttC is retardedly awesome (just like every scrapper level 16 power). People really need to actually learn the power sets.

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But some people want to just play and figure it out as the go. I'm regretting that I asked.


 

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It sounds like a respec will be needed soon, but I just went with my old standard of get stamina as quick as possible, but other then that I had no plan or build in mind. I just noticed as I fight more bosses that their alphas tear into my little wp scrapper.

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Sounds like you need to actually check to see what powers your secondary actually has before you start defaulting to basic strategies. QR is bigger than Stamina. RttC is retardedly awesome (just like every scrapper level 16 power). People really need to actually learn the power sets.

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But some people want to just play and figure it out as the go. I'm regretting that I asked.

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Considering that you're asking what you need to do to deal with bosses and you're not even using the tools at your disposal, I'm amused that you think it's our fault. It's like asking why you're dieing because you took the fighting pool rather than anything from your secondary.


 

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It sounds like a respec will be needed soon, but I just went with my old standard of get stamina as quick as possible, but other then that I had no plan or build in mind. I just noticed as I fight more bosses that their alphas tear into my little wp scrapper.

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Sounds like you need to actually check to see what powers your secondary actually has before you start defaulting to basic strategies. QR is bigger than Stamina. RttC is retardedly awesome (just like every scrapper level 16 power). People really need to actually learn the power sets.

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But some people want to just play and figure it out as the go. I'm regretting that I asked.

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that has never flied in this game.

well it flies, but if you do it and then complain you get little to no sympathy on these boards


 

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I'm regretting that I asked.

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Put simply, you started it when you insulted the advice of the very experts who could best answer your questions. Had you not been insulting, I suspect you wouldn't have been mildly chastised as you were.

You may not have intended to be insulting, but I think what you wrote was very easily read that way. So if it wasn't your intent, you may want to be more careful with your word choices in the future.


"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
Videos of Other Stupid Scrapper Tricks

 

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I could always turn to you guys for some comedy...


 

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Sure but when I say hey what should I do, hearing you shouldn't have a problem isn't helpful.

I get that you guys know about the sets and everthing but dismissing people because they aren't into max/min they way you guys are doesn't help.

It was a simple question. What can wp do to off set extra damage that bosses do, and what I got was how could you have a problem with a boss.

whatever its just a game.


 

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I get that you guys know about the sets and everthing but dismissing people because they aren't into max/min they way you guys are doesn't help.

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We're not talking min/maxing. We're talking "taking the powers that will actually contribute noticeably" and "knowing what your power sets offer". There's a big difference.


 

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What's your primary? At 24th what would you have done on your /Regen? At 24th you would have only Dull Pain (and you have HPT), both IH and MoG are down the road yet? Make sure the minions can and do fuel RttC ... if they are scattered use LoS (and your RttC aura) and get them bunched up. Is it all bosses from various enemy groups or just the ones in an arc you currently running? Is something beside the boss setting you up for defeat by the boss, a minion with -regen, -resist (or both) powers for instance and might be worth taking down before the boss?

Might just be your current level, you're 24th. The next few levels could be very "big" levels in your survivability. At 25th another row of inspires, 26th for some primaries (like Broadsword) you gain a hard hitting primary attack. But yes, when all said and done on /WP at pretty much any level you either have enough regen, defense and resists in your build before the encounter or not. On the fly in a fight unlike /regen you don't and won't have any clicks in /WP to help outside of SoW, which like MoG is down the road a ways yet to even have as an option. So if it remains an issue post your build and perhaps an answer beyond "charge" will be more likely to come back

Edit: And whew did this thread add a few posts while I was typing or what


 

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Sure but when I say hey what should I do, hearing you shouldn't have a problem isn't helpful.

I get that you guys know about the sets and everthing but dismissing people because they aren't into max/min they way you guys are doesn't help.

It was a simple question. What can wp do to off set extra damage that bosses do, and what I got was how could you have a problem with a boss.

whatever its just a game.

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hrm. you registered for the forums in 04.

the 'concept' vs. 'what actually works' was debated long ago. but by now you should have enough of a grasp of the basics of this game to know what you will and wont need.