cold/ice Defender?


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I have a cold/ice defender at lvl 43 right now and he is two bars away to lvl, and I wanted to take him to RV but need the shield first so as soon and I lvl im probly gonna head there and i want to know what to expect, Is /ice horrible now? how do yall think I will do?


 

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Ice bolt, ice blast, aim and bitter ice blast and if you go psy mastery with dominate you should be good with your attack chain... colds play just fine in RV


 

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I already have power mastery now is that bad?


 

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Colds do very well in RV. I lean more to psy than power for colds for a few reasons.

1 PB does not help cold a tun. Being Ice you already have aim so dont need it.

2 Yes Total Focus hits hard but its melee and a long animation. Stalkers lick their lips when they see a fender go for a total focus. Where dominate hits hard probaly harder than anything you can throw from ice. Can take 3 damage procs to make it hit harder. and does not have you frozen in the air while that stalker is laughing hitting BU+A/S.

and finaly 3 TK.... Tk is so nice with the new mez system. The hold is only broken when they take damage and its auto hit. So that means you can debuff them while they are TKed then "wake them up" with a sleet and your attack chain.


 

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ok, well im gonna need a respec now so can some1 post there build or something I figure if Im going to respec I better get it right now. please and thank you


 

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he's talking about RV virtue (syn).

colds are pretty trash compared to a lot of other ATs in the a DR environment. the nerf in recharge from DR makes it so that heat loss is not up enough, and the toggles nerf makes it so that snow storm looses a lot of it's appeal.

also, corrs have it a lot nicer than defenders if you really want a cold.

3 things you NEED in pvp to be top tier.
1. perception
2. a way to regain hp in between kills.
3. a phase power (stupid i13).

a good defender build will only be able to fit in a perception or a phase power and will have to rely on greens mostly.

so overall... yeah, loldefenders.


 

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Yes because RV in virtue is so much different than the almighty fredumb. (Where people would post on the forums when they killed a LoL Dm/Regain. and back in the day a single emp/blaster duo could take over the zone. Let me tell you how impressed that makes me of freedom zone PvP)

I agree that fenders did get the short end of the stick with the changes to debuffs. Corr colds feel so much better. Colds are still useful and do well with all the -def -res -recharge they can throw out. Fender damage feels so lackluster compared to their corr counterparts. My thoughts are always centered around team play. So you dont "have" to have a way to self heal. But yes if your trying to take on teams solo with your cold/ fender you will have more trouble than before, because your -movement was hit with the nerf bat and DR just sucks. Psy mastery will help though. It adds a heavy hitter with dominate and a "sit and watch" power in TK.

Lastly LoL@top tier in zone pvp.


 

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For Rad/Psi defender, would you still recommend Psy mastery over Power Mastery, or just keep Power Mastery?


 

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For /Psy its a toss up. You need PBU for +damage +tohit. And it helps the -def toggle and heal from rad. It boils down to play style. I have a Cold/Psy and i started out with power mastery and went psy and it just feels better. I almost never solo PvP so this could be a big factor too. I'll be honest I have had a rad/psy for a long time and never have taken him out so i cant speak too much on the subject.


 

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Defenders are so bad now. The only thing that's decent on Defender now is Storm/Dark. Because you get power build up which basically gives Dark Blast the much needed "aim" that the set is missing. Everything else roll a corrupter. O BTW ice blast is horrible in this game now dmg wise..and the devs gutted slows. So just save your self some fustration and re-roll to a corrupter (sonic/cold or Rad/cold are hawt). If you really want to stay blue side, just make a Storm/Dark Defender. It pwns in the right hands.


 

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I really agree about the red side corrs being better now that unresisted debuffs are out of the picture. Its sad that for years you always rolled a fender version if you could because it would be better now its the other way around. Silly silly devs. No happy middle its one end of the spectrum or the other. The thing is i really really try to avoid responding to a help me thread by saying reroll. Some people take a long time to get a toon to the high 40s and want to now pvp with their project. So I try and help them be the best new PvPers that they can. Not your toon sucks go make something not fail. :P

and ya I was not going to get into it but ice kinda sucks. Only thing really keeping you as a fender cold is psy or sonic(For more -res if i remember right its -20 not -15 that corrs get) But id put my sonic/cold/sharks corr up vs just about any cold/sonic/psy(or power) fender any day.


 

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For Dominate and Telekinesis from Psy Mastery, how would you slot them, what IOs would you recommend?


 

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Dominate i do 3 acc/dam SHOs and 3 damage procs. Tk I like to slot 1 range and 1-2 recharges.