Range and AoE Defenses


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Quick question getting back into Blaster and really loving it at the moment. The current build I am working on is being built for defense I just wanted to know should I focus mainly on just Ranged defense or should I build for AoE and Ranged defense equally, since the toon I have stays mainly at range?


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Quick question getting back into Blaster and really loving it at the moment. The current build I am working on is being built for defense I just wanted to know should I focus mainly on just Ranged defense or should I build for AoE and Ranged defense equally, since the toon I have stays mainly at range?

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AoE attacks are rare enough that you can, in general, get away with slotting just for ranged defense, especially since, in order to softcap (which is the general goal), you're going to be gimping yourself to softcap both.


 

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Quick question getting back into Blaster and really loving it at the moment. The current build I am working on is being built for defense I just wanted to know should I focus mainly on just Ranged defense or should I build for AoE and Ranged defense equally, since the toon I have stays mainly at range?

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AoE attacks are rare enough that you can, in general, get away with slotting just for ranged defense, especially since, in order to softcap (which is the general goal), you're going to be gimping yourself to softcap both.

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Depends on your powersets, but yeah, it's hard to soft-cap both w/o seriously gimping your build. Range alone is achievable w/o sacrificing too much and you should be able to get your AoE def into the high 20s/low 30s along the way, but anything much over 35% will be tough.


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Quick question getting back into Blaster and really loving it at the moment. The current build I am working on is being built for defense I just wanted to know should I focus mainly on just Ranged defense or should I build for AoE and Ranged defense equally, since the toon I have stays mainly at range?

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AoE attacks are rare enough that you can, in general, get away with slotting just for ranged defense, especially since, in order to softcap (which is the general goal), you're going to be gimping yourself to softcap both.

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I don't know I haven't really gimped myself, atleast I don't think. I haven't been able to put procs in my attacks but I have 3 powers 6 slotted with Thuderstrike and 2 2 slotted blessing of the Zyphers and from 3 slotting my 2 PBAoEs gives me 3.13 which gives me about 20.64% I plan on getting the two defense IOs which will give me 6% and I plan on getting about 13% off of stuff that was already going to be 6 slotted for max usage. On top of that Smoke Grenade offers -tohit and I will get a couple miles from Cloeaking Device and Combat Jumping so in essense I will exeed the cap and I will have about 20% - 25% AoE with some melee, but the way this toon mitigates, solo nothing will be able to get into melee and when I team I usually stand back and blast.

I was just wanting to know if it would have been better to alter some powers and slots to get about 35% range and about 33% AoE. BUt like you said Ranged AoE isn't as common as regular Range so I will take that and just keep what I have going.

But so far I will not be gimping my build to get the soft cap range


"Yes, winning all the time can be boring."
-Knight_Chill

"It's amazing how well you can put up with endurance issues if you hide them under a large enough pile of bodies."

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Quick question getting back into Blaster and really loving it at the moment. The current build I am working on is being built for defense I just wanted to know should I focus mainly on just Ranged defense or should I build for AoE and Ranged defense equally, since the toon I have stays mainly at range?

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AoE attacks are rare enough that you can, in general, get away with slotting just for ranged defense, especially since, in order to softcap (which is the general goal), you're going to be gimping yourself to softcap both.

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I don't know I haven't really gimped myself, atleast I don't think. I haven't been able to put procs in my attacks but I have 3 powers 6 slotted with Thuderstrike and 2 2 slotted blessing of the Zyphers and from 3 slotting my 2 PBAoEs gives me 3.13 which gives me about 20.64% I plan on getting the two defense IOs which will give me 6% and I plan on getting about 13% off of stuff that was already going to be 6 slotted for max usage. On top of that Smoke Grenade offers -tohit and I will get a couple miles from Cloeaking Device and Combat Jumping so in essense I will exeed the cap and I will have about 20% - 25% AoE with some melee, but the way this toon mitigates, solo nothing will be able to get into melee and when I team I usually stand back and blast.

I was just wanting to know if it would have been better to alter some powers and slots to get about 35% range and about 33% AoE. BUt like you said Ranged AoE isn't as common as regular Range so I will take that and just keep what I have going.

But so far I will not be gimping my build to get the soft cap range

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If you reread what I wrote, I stated that you would be gimping yourself to be softcapping both. Softcap ranged and get AoE in the mid 20-30s and then you're gold. By the way, Smoke Grenade isn't going to be as awesome as you think, especially when fighting higher level enemies that have purple patch to reduce the effect and AVs that have AV resistance to let them laugh at debuffs.


 

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If you reread what I wrote, I stated that you would be gimping yourself to be softcapping both. Softcap ranged and get AoE in the mid 20-30s and then you're gold. By the way, Smoke Grenade isn't going to be as awesome as you think, especially when fighting higher level enemies that have purple patch to reduce the effect and AVs that have AV resistance to let them laugh at debuffs.

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I am sorry misread a little bit of it. But as far as enemies and the purple patch solo don't plan on fighting that higher level of enemies, I am soloing on like diff 3, but when I team and the enemies are purple...well when I team I don't think I used my secondary...on a good team I don't need to lol. As for AV's I don't plan on soloing them anytime soon. As for the PToD EBs I just plan on keeping them immob and using purples and reds.

But thanks for the advice and thanks for letting me know about the purple patch did not know that existed til you brought it up and I checked paragonwiki.

Thank you all for the advce


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It depends on what your build is like but I have an old build for a fire/energy that has 46% ranged and 20something% AoE.


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-Knight_Chill

"It's amazing how well you can put up with endurance issues if you hide them under a large enough pile of bodies."

-Spiritchaser speaking on Dom Revamp