Why are my bosses not spawning


Arashi

 

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Actually I have an idea, but want to see if I am right or if there is another cause.

In some of my missions I am actually using Lts as bosses in my defeat boss mission goal. I figure that maybe the problem but perhaps there is another reason, if so, anyone know why?

Oh and if you are wondering, my Lts are custom and are hard enough to fight they might as well be bosses. Also I am building up to the main boss in the final mission.


INFINITY - Lady Moon Blood, Unit E-17, Lexy, Gargoyle Larry, Wargasmic, Moon Blood
PINNACLE - Wormhole, Baelzebozo, New Age Healer, Lint Boy, Jive Jitsu, Baratis
TRIUMPH - Moon Blood, Infrared Neck, Margor, Demon Baby, Mr Death, Murderotica, Penny Royal
GUARDIAN - Major Reynolds, Thieving Mia

 

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What difficulty and team size are you using to test your mission(s)? That makes a pretty big difference on what ranks will spawn.

Also, using Lts. as Boss Objectives should have no impact on what spawns.



 

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Also, using Lts. as Boss Objectives should have no impact on what spawns.

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That is what I thought, yet I can not get a boss to spawn for the Boss objective in my second mission. I have no idea bout my other missions since I cant get past this one.

The missions have a Collect Item objective a Kill Boss objective, two patrols as I have two enemy groups in each mission, and a battle.

Is it possible any of these conflict somehow. The boss spawning is not contingent upon completion of other objectives.

Any thoughts?


INFINITY - Lady Moon Blood, Unit E-17, Lexy, Gargoyle Larry, Wargasmic, Moon Blood
PINNACLE - Wormhole, Baelzebozo, New Age Healer, Lint Boy, Jive Jitsu, Baratis
TRIUMPH - Moon Blood, Infrared Neck, Margor, Demon Baby, Mr Death, Murderotica, Penny Royal
GUARDIAN - Major Reynolds, Thieving Mia

 

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I have never seen an Objective simply not appear at all, regardless of settings.

I would check to make sure that the enemy you are using actually exists in the group that you think it is (this is almost definately NOT the problem). Take a look at your listed mission objective when you enter the mission... is the Boss Objective listed? If it is, SCOUR your map, he may be spawning in a ridiculous place. Also, if you are using a standard enemy as a Defeat Boss, give him a giberish name to assure that you simply didn't miss him. Make sure that you know where the boss is set to appear.



 

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Is the boss itself a custom, or a pre-existing enemy? If it's pre-existing, and its level limit is only a portion compared to the level limit of the entire mission, he won't spawn if the mission is being played outside the boss's level limitation.

In other words, he'll only appear if your level is within the level range designated when you assign the boss in the objectives section.


 

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Particularly if you're using a somewhat "unusual" map, try changing it and see what happens. I was using the "Malta/Warburg" map and having a lot of trouble getting bosses to spawn, but I think it's a problem with that particular map.


 

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Thanks for all the responses so far. I have been playing with it and still having trouble. Here is what I am working with.

This particular mission is the second in a series of 5, and none of the other missions have this issue. Initially it was all one big file. I saved each mission as a separate file to test them individually.

When entering the mission the mission objective only shows the collect item objective, and it looks like there is space for the defeat boss objective, but nothing is listed, and I have named it.

The boss is a custom boss, so level limit should be irrelevant.

Initially I thought it was a map I was using, as I started with the Council Giant Robot and figured he was spawning in the room I could not get into. I have since changed to a standard Council map - still no boss.

I tried deleting the defeat boss objective and recreating it - still no boss.

I also have battles and patrols in the mission and tried lowering the number of patrols - still no boss.

I'm at a loss as to why this is happening.


INFINITY - Lady Moon Blood, Unit E-17, Lexy, Gargoyle Larry, Wargasmic, Moon Blood
PINNACLE - Wormhole, Baelzebozo, New Age Healer, Lint Boy, Jive Jitsu, Baratis
TRIUMPH - Moon Blood, Infrared Neck, Margor, Demon Baby, Mr Death, Murderotica, Penny Royal
GUARDIAN - Major Reynolds, Thieving Mia

 

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Just to confirm. Do you mean you are not getting boss class spawns? As in you set the mission to deafet boss, set enemy type to your custom group and set boss to to the boss class character?

If you're on low dificulty or solo, bosses will not spawn as part of the regular mission population. Your specified end map boss will be your boss class but downgraded to LT if you're solo on dificulty 1.

I recomend upping dificulty to 3 or 4 OR testing with a team. Though dificulty will still not make bosses spawn as a part of a non-specific mob, if you have a boss class specifically listed for the mission end mob, it will be a boss class.

Also, check under the settings of you Defeat Biss tab, is there a trigger to spawn it? (collection, hostage, etc) If so you'll need to complete that first.


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