In-character crudeness- what do you do?
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Write an ooc-comment in your bio stating you are a roleplayer, and you only roleplay that type of character.
My character is a very mean person, often-times stating some rude remarks to 'weaker heroes'. However, I am not a rude person. My <( RP )> in my bio hopes to explain that to others.
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Yah, as I mentioned, I've thought of doing that. However, there's still a good chance that a lot of people may write me off before even reading the bio. Personally, I rarely ever read people's bios, even though I'm a roleplayer. That's why I also thought of the keybind message. That seems a tad bit annoying to me, but I think it's probably the best solution.
PigLick
Preface your comments with a short, private, ooc note to the person such as this;
"OOC: my character is a bit of an <$%^> please dont take it personal. If I cross the line, or you're uncomfortable, say the word and I'll confine my comments to ;em grumbles. Thanks "
That puts the ball completly in their court and lets them set the level of interaction they are comfortable with.
Most problems like this can be solved with open communication.
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OCC: My character is such a flirt and appears immature, people often act surprised when they find out I'm 25!!!
He's also always with the witty remarks, HORRIBLE puns, and generally just won't shut up... I'm surprised some people put UP with Sly half the time...
Just goes to show you, some of us are REALLY good actors...
edit: oh yeah, and with a name like PigLick I can't even IMAGINE how foul! I turn profanity on, (the more real language, the better!) but most leave it disabled if they want to, so also remember, any cursing someone doesn't want to see, they won't... just *****
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I have no problem with cursing using a character if the time is appropriate. Role-playing is a mature thing to do. Though I do not like to curse in real life, it may suit my character. If someone has a problem with profanity, then turn it off. I will say though, some characters don't roleplay at all and just love to spam people with foul language =( That's sad.
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First rule of roleplaying!!! You must be comfortable with your character. If you are uncomfortable with things he would do or say, then you are roleplaying the wrong type of toon.
I'm always surprised when someone puts up with Villegas, who is a complete human supremacist. It makes things interesting though.
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First rule of roleplaying!!! You must be comfortable with your character. If you are uncomfortable with things he would do or say, then you are roleplaying the wrong type of toon.
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Well, it's not that I'm not comfortable with him, but I also don't want to inflict anything on others both because I just don't like to do that personally, and because I don't want to open myself to disciplinary action from someone who decides to petition me rather than speaking to me about it.
The language filter is there, true, but it's not perfect. Anyone with any kind of "proficiency" in swearing can get around it easy and often, especially by using slang or trying to spek with some sort of "accent." For instance, it fits my character to say [censored] or [censored]' instead of [censored]. I doubt the first two are on the filter, whereas the last one certainly is. And I'm sure using the first two could offend someone, and could potentially lead to a complaint being filed.
Sexual harrassment and such are along the same lines. There's really no way for someone to filter out that my guy is a lecherous objectifier of women ( ).
I think for now I'll just go ahead with putting a little "disclaimer" in my bio, and maybe the keybound one also for grouping, and go from there. If I get complaints, I can adjust accordingly.
PigLick
I have "sorry...I'm an alien" on a keybind to apologize when my rping is mistaken as being a jerk. It fits with my character who is an alien and is completely oblivious to the rules of earth etiquette. He/she (they have no gender on his planet) has a kind of childlike inquisitiveness and honesty. Alot of people get offended by that but most get it when I use that bind. It would also help if people looked at bios more. -Beware of the...Sticky Wickitt!
Personally I would put it in your bio, if they have a problm with it, they are most likely not old enough to be playing in the first place, or they just are not worth your time. I do try to read bio's as often as possible, especially if someone is acting in a manner I don't like. Good luck to you
I think it's unwise to cuss over a "open" channel reguardless of any disclaimers you may have in your bio, or fire off as a warning.
Do you think they would of gotten away with the line "sorry for anybody who was offended by Janet's bap being shown" in the end credits? I think not.
I come from EQ, and our gu channel was um, a bit ripe but I always watched what I said "in the open".
What I would do, in your case, would set up a number of emotes that "describe" your cussing, without doing it "out loud", those that understand will, those that don't will carry on oblivious. With the added bonus you can fire them off at the relevent point without too much hassle.
One other thing If you feel a person out you can sometimes kinda tell who is roleplaying and who isn't. I met someone last night that appeared to be rude but I believe she was role playing so I played along as the sometimes annoyed at her antics but still there for you teammate! I'll play along with characters like you long as you play back. Know when I've (my character) has had enough of your mouth and back off some! I thought that was the point of this game to live out our superhero fantasies!!!
A I use the profanity filter, B my character is a throwback from the Golden age of Heros, so any stronger swear word than is available in comic code will probally earn your character a dressing down expecially if women and children are present, as heros We are suspose to set the example.
Just My two cents worth., Oh and because he wouldn't want to make you look any badder he would not do it in public because that wouldn't help.
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As Ivory IG I'm a very cold and calculated person. I don't curse too terribly much, but I find new and unussual ways of pissing people off every day. However... when I play Ivory, I roleplay. If someone wants to get mad, I'll respond just as Ivory should. If there's a challenge made to me in a party I'm quick to silence it by words or, in certain cirumstances, a quick recall friend into a pile of purple mobs.
I don't think that you should be bothered by how you play your character or how others respond to it... if you are then you need to re-evaluate how you want to play your character because his personality is obviously too far a stretch for you to accept.
The profanity filter, on the other hand, is key to a single fact: you cannot be repremanded for cursing. Try telling a GM that someone called you... whatever... and they're just going to tell you to put the filter on and close your request. gg
When all is said and done just be ready to face the consequences of playing the character you created... in a comi book the character who often berates the "weaker" heroes or is perhaps... cold or unfeeling, very to the point, curses like a fiend... they don't tend to be very popular with the other super heroes... guess why.
As The Sly Fox I am always prepared for a person playing a female character to put me on "/ignore"
And that's just how The Sly Fox WOULD be treated often, so it's allllllll good!
OOC:My character is an emotional, pissed off, don't take crap from nobody, and sometimes psychotic person. He is known too find ways to get around the profanity filter, so I kinda get tounge lashed sometimes, so I'll just call 'em a c ockbite and I'm off. My only prob is get people to differentiate between my char talkin to them and when he is insultin an npc baddie. So don't sweat it man, play how u wanna play.
Very simple solution. Any time your character would say something vulgar, use the tried-and-true comics tradition of replacing your swear words with something like "@#$%&*!"
That way, you get your point across, and nobody will be offended.
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Very simple solution. Any time your character would say something vulgar, use the tried-and-true comics tradition of replacing your swear words with something like "@#$%&*!"
That way, you get your point across, and nobody will be offended.
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Yah, I've thought of doing that too. In fact, I did exactly that for the cursing in my battle cry. I might give it a shot in normal conversation, too, though I haven't done so yet.
I did just go ahead and put a "disclaimer" in my bio area, so anyone who bothers to check it at least knows that I'm RPing, and it also says if they have a problem with it to send me a tell and we can work it out. I haven't had any problems yet, hopefully never will, but you never know...
A quick comment to a couple of other replies...no matter how much you're roleplaying, TPing someone else into a group of purples is considered griefing and could get you in trouble, not to mention is just a punkass thing to do. I dont' care how much of an *** your character is, the line is drawn when it causes someone else to actually suffer- at that point you're not punishing or inflicting on the character, you're doing it to the player.
In a related but less serious matter, purposely getting around the cursing filter to tell someone off is also a bad idea and may get you in trouble. The filter is there for a reason, if someone has it turned on, it's their right not to have to hear you cursing. By purposely adding spaces, punctuation, etc to bypass the filter you're violating that right, and it could result in disciplinary action.
PigLick
I play a character thats not rude, but talks a lot of rubbish from time to time and raves on about how good he is and just talks a lot of nonsense. I tie that in with having a good heart and trying to do the right thing, but I realize that kind of personality can be annoying in large doses, like my SG. So what I'll do from time to time if I am going off for a period of time is give people the option to tell me to shut up in OOC incase I am getting on people's nerves.
I think the golden rule of Roleplaying either here or paper and pencil is this. Play whatever character you'd like but your fun should never be at the expense of somebody else's.
Only time I ever got a gm response for someone "reporting" me for a mob tp, they told me "be nice to him. He is new and doesn't understand the game." and after a very short conversation he told me that there's nothing he can actually do about it... if the player has a problem with it, they can leave the party.
I disagree about hurting the player... if they "get hurt" because a jerk in their party tosses them into mobs, they should probbly be playing a single player game.
griefing is one of those words that really means "He's being a jerk and I can't handle it" in these games.
Users have control over their experience; if they don't like the way you talk, they can /ignore you and never have to see it again. If they don't like the way you party, they can refuse to join up with you. If you're really out to roleplay... why are you trying to make friends with the people whom you might offend? Well... unless you're roleplaying someone who's insecure with their public image.
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griefing is one of those words that really means "He's being a jerk and I can't handle it" in these games.
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No, it means "He's purposely trying to ruin the game for me, and I shouldn't have to put up with it." There's a big difference between talking trash, insulting, arguing, etc in-character, but when you actually take action that will "harm" the character (and therefore cause the player grief), you've crossed the line, and there's no reason for it. If you've been reported for doing it and only had a mild warning from a GM, I'd consider you lucky, but I wouldn't expect your luck to hold out.
The *only* time I'd consider doing something like that okay is when you're playing with a group of friends who know that you're likely to do that to them and are okay with it. If you don't know them well enough to be sure of that, though, it just ain't cool.
PigLick
Ok, thought I'd get some RP input on this. I have a character (and a couple other concepts) who would, in real life, quite often curse, make "rude" remarks, and in general be pretty crude. However, I have a hard time really trying to speak in-character with him, because I'm not the type that likes to really grate on other people's nerves and also, (and possibly even more importantly), because I don't want other potential RPers to write me off as just a rude/coarse/immature person who *isn't* roleplaying. I suppose if I added some sort mention of this in my bio it would help, and I've also considered making a keybind with a brief explanation/disclaimer I can fire off as soon as I join a group to let people know. Just thought I'd bring it up here, to see how others deal with this and other similar situations.
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