bekkar

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Why is ranged/control overpowered?

[/ QUOTE ] How do you make a control power 75% (or 66%) as effective, then they have a simple 2-4 scale of magnitude? If you lower it by one, you make them horribly weak. If you don't lower them, controllers become useless by comparison.
I think what you end up doing is severely limiting the targets. I think there wouldn't be much problem with blasters having some single-target control effects in their secondary...

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Arakhn. You were trying to make a point that I'd like to agree with...but you overdid it a little.

[/ QUOTE ] Why? AoEs? So in effect the scrapper will die as fast as the blaster? I'm still not seeing preference.

[/ QUOTE ] No, Arakhn flies. Hovering scraps exist, but we aren't common.

[/ QUOTE ] I was referring to the Moonfire AV. The one that uses a version of Dark Regen.
EDIT: who I didn't see flying at any point, incidentally, but we had control effects mixed in

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Try to think of a single team, a single situation, a single time in game where a team trying to decided between two potential teammates would say "No, lets not take the scrapper, let's take the blaster!"

[/ QUOTE ] Arakhn. You were trying to make a point that I'd like to agree with...but you overdid it a little.

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Dark Consumption (hey if we're just counting AoE damage here, minor or not, it's AoE and damage, had enough people holding Rain of Fire against me as "damage," pfft...)

[/ QUOTE ] Really, you would have been better off not even mentioning a minor-damage attack with a three minute timer. I was almost agreeing with you until that one.
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This is an outrage, Scrappers whine cause they can't take on multiple 4+ bosses and AVs, and can't herd as well any more and they get a written apology

[/ QUOTE ] Please be careful with these generalizations. I'd like to see Blasters helped out, but when I see that kind of blind overgeneralizing and lashing out, it makes it really hard to stay supportive...

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Well we can bring up Focus and Impale then? Cause those are available at 18 and 8 respectively.

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I can't think of anything that a scrapper can't do better than a blaster.

Ranged attacks? Laser eye beams and dark blasts with criticals.

[/ QUOTE ] Of course, before level 46, that's not an option. I'd like to agree with you in general, but be careful bringing up points like that one.

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Yet they get 80% defence of Tanks too? Sounds fishy to me.

[/ QUOTE ] Probably fishy because they actually get 25% of a tank's defensive ability (by an optimistic count). However, Tanker defense is so ridiculously high that 25% is still more than enough to survive a dozen attackers.

Rathstar, I rather like 1, 2, and 4.
The fourth in particular has always been pretty funny, in a sad way...balance dictates it shouldn't generate zeroaggro, but at best they should only have a vague idea of where the shot came from until you fire a second shot. When a villian can locate a sniper to within a one-foot radius from a hundred yards away, well...can we recruit him?

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To quote the manual "Scrappers...often find themselves a bit overshadowed by the more specialized Blaster and Tankers" (Page 8). I assume this is the concept for the AT (and I'd guess, is desired to still be relevant) but I fail to remember the last time a Scrapper was overshadowed by either AT let alone Blasters.

[/ QUOTE ] Really? I'd say a scrapper is more than "a bit overshadowed" by a tanker's defenses. Actually, I'd say tankers have around 4x a scrapper's defenses...that's more than a bit. It leaves the scrappers with enough that, with support, they can tank an average spawn. It's enough, but it's not remotely the same catagory of defense.

The comparison to blasters' offense is a lot closer. Scrappers are only slightly overshadowed by blasters offense. It's right on there, in the offense department. Of course, effectiveness is a mix of offense and defense...the difference between a scrapper's defenses and a blasters is...umm...trying to divide by zero here...

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Frankly, I have no optimism at all that things will turn out well.

[/ QUOTE ] Cynic (n): a person who learns from experience

A very good idea, exactly what many people had been hoping to see and not actually expecting.

I love teleport, but it's extreme vulnerability to lag is not something to overlook. When the server/area is busy, using teleport can be fairly dangerous...more than once I've teleported, hit lag, and it took a few seconds for the game to "catch up" and actually show me in my target location (and of course by then I was already falling fast).

Teleport is fun, but it's also the most likely to get you killed in stupid ways