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I agree. Doesn't look like it will happen.
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Quote:The reason why KBs are fun is because they are random. Much more difficult to predict the outcome and much more FUN when the more experienced players aren't consolidated to one team.Lol then why do you post in discussions about it?
Also you are missing the point. The most fun you have in a league is generally fighting the teams that are close to you in skill level. And practices are generally funner than the officials because there's less pressure to win. You can just play and it doesn't have the randomness of a kb. -
Quote:I won't join because it's a giant circle jerk;It isn't competitive when you can easily predict the outcome.All of this is just speculation to help Tokyo rationalize to the forum-going pvpers why he won't join in organized pvp on Freedom, correct? It was great back in the day when everyone was there and you could dupe everything you needed. But with all the bugs and instances of the devs disrupting leagues, I don't sense there is any strong desire on the part of the community to go back there.
If you really want me to join in your events I have no problem emping or debuffing/support for KBs. Ask Dex and Vex I participated in KBs on Terminal Lad untill I got banned or tired of the whiners not being able to stack team.
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What's your point? F2P players can't use incarnates anyway (ask poned) d;P . Avatea pointed out the copy tool should be fixed by later today.
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Quote:You can't have two separate leagues or make preparation for a test league while this league is in progress? Didn't know pvp was that bad off. I was told that this was the most successful league in a while.It depends on your teammates I guess. When we were doing the Champ 3 v 3 league Peril funded a bunch of our builds, but he's a dance legend and that has its benefits. Generally a PvP team will have a few flush players that can help out or at least get market tips.
Time.
Imagine this scenario:
@Neuronia: "Hai guise let's go to test."
PvPer 1: "Shut fayse."
PvPer 2: "Baddo."
PvPers 3-5: "Sure, let's patch."
PvPers 6-7: "Lol Test, that's for people without inf or builds."
For this to work we would need at least 5-8 teams with 8-15 members...so 90 pvpers. We would also all need bases on both sides unless we flip our characters to middle alignments. THEN we would need about 10-15 Respecs each to fill our bins with IOs to distribute to everyone.
Now that that's done, we need to schedule matches...and anyone that was on Test in the day know it was like pulling teeth to get anything more than a few practices going and it's even worse if you're the top team, in which case you're basically just fighting the same teams...see Velocity vs. JAL/PWNY Xpress/etc. while you field challenges from a few other teams that want to see if they can unseat the big dogs.
So it comes down to:
1)Do we want to spend a few weeks transferring, building bases, respecing and transferring to bins, setting up test and letting everyone know about test or...
2)Just PL on Freedom, farm inf and get pvp IOs and purples via the market or RMT.
It would take a seismic shift of interest on the part of a dwindling community to make this happen and I honestly do not see it at this point. The last test ladder had So Much Dam, dUmb and mac's team (?) and it basically became dUmb vs. SMD (?) practicing 2-3 days a week until we got bored and moved to Freedom.
We're on Freedom. You get a free transfer per month so you can move your toon there if you're ViP. Moving on.
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The test ship has sailed. We're on Freedom. Free server transfers with ViP. Moving on. -
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Quote:The numbers are wanting as is. What is there really to lose?Tokyo.. PvP was on Test a good long while and you know that. We didn't want to move from Test, but it was the best option at the time. Now it's on Freedom. If the issues with Test are resolved and there were enough numbers to support a Test League or Ladder, I'd be all for it. Unfortunately the numbers are wanting.
Quote:I wish Con was still around so he could tell you to shut it. Maybe you'd listen to him. -
Quote:Considering how much drama there is when people can't stack their teams with friends in a KB...This. Do you really believe the people with expensive builds don't want others to have them? Especially since it's so easy to make inf.
You're really asking this question? I think people are more concerned with pwning. -
I am the worst person to ask to organize anything PvP related(I don't have the respect or clout in the PvP community). If Conflict, Trib or Yallander we're around they'd be better suited. Unfortunately the brightest left a long time ago.
A Test league would be really nice to have just for the sake of nostalgia. -
This issue was resolved months ago. The only reason(s) for not having a test league now are:
1) people are too lazy(stupid) to download Test.
2) server pride.
3) Keeping league pvp for the exclusive few that can afford the builds. -
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Have I ever mentioned how much I <3 being an outside observer to league soaps?
I usually have to kick the drama llama in the nuts to get things rolling; creating a league is like designing a perpetual motion engine, but instead of perpetuating work it's drama. -
Quote:If the devs were ever to revisit pvp it would be to take a more critical look at pvp mechanics. Removing TS/HD would be sugar coating a turd...If by some miracle they did decide to do some fixes to PvP I would also like to see the ability for rogues/vigilantes to access both the hero and villain sides of PvP zones... It would help solve some of the imbalance of numbers in Hero vs. Villain zones, although I'm guessing that would be harder to implement then just removing TS/HD.
Which upon consideration is exactly what the development team is best known for... -
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Quote:I'm going to let you stew in the irony of this post and your previous posts.I really don't know how you are feeling, as psychology nor the liberal arts was never really my thing. I was more of a business person myself, with that comes some basic reasoning and math skills thankfully. Let me illustrate.
1 person puts down others to try and make themselves feel better/blow off steam.
If putting down 1 person adds a qualitative amount of "Feel better about myself" to the aggressor, attacking a small group with N+1 people in it should only serve to boost the effect. Whether it is additive or multiplicative, who really knows.
Trying to belittle a large community, like say those either learning or working in the liberal arts would surely produce an greater effect, but you'd likely be looking at curve with an upper limit.
Now you said you do this to blow off steam, pretty much suggesting that if you don't do it, your quality of life will suffer. The more people you insult, the better you feel. So that would mean there is a correlation between the number of people you are trying to insult and how miserable your life much really be.
http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline...p/Default.aspx
You're welcome.
Think about it. You try far too hard. I can do this in five sentences.
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Quote:I think Liberty and Battle should sit down and sip darjeeling tea while sharing their innermost personal feelings with the rest of the community on vent.No.
I think cyber bullying is a necessary part of any social outcast's life. Look at Hot Heals, he wouldn't be the person he is without being bullied.
I just think that Battletard needs to sit the **** down.
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Quote:Daknah, the flapping forum heads have convinced me to reflect on my past transgressions and I have come to the conclusion that I am a horrible, horrible person for trash talking in a pvp zone. I've been a naughty trull and I deserve to be flogged.1. That was not your original point. It was that the gp was plain but you realized you couldn't back that up.
2. Our current line up consists of a random sonic blaster that you agree with yet don't agree that silit is a scrapper from protector. Silit has spent more time playing his scrapper than his blaster and Dom combined.
3. The only person being bullied by us is maybe you. And you bring that on yourself. And are you a teenager? O no, you are some self righteous starving artist. So we can't be cyber bullying you since you aren't a teen. Most zoners are so CG yellow you cyber bully you.
Help me, WARE, you're my only hope... d;D -
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